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It is entirely possible to be a patriot, responsible, moral and of a conservative mindset without professing christianity.

I think this clip speaks for itself as the greatest movie line ever Greatest_Movie_Line_Ever.wmv

Don't worry, Skillet. Libs, progressives, free thinkers or what ever they call themselves always resort to some diversion arguments or immediately stray off topic because their beliefs hold no water in the real world. Truth is a Libs worst enemy followed closely by logic. They just ca'nt get their minds around concepts like patriotism, family and values

ill take up ARMs to protect mysef and family from anyone regardless race/religion....

Lost some fascia on the house and couple limbs down in the yard... They clocked winds at the Syracuse Carrier Dome at 110 mph they said on the news

Nixon was forced to resign when threatened with impeachment for less. Obama and Holder run guns to Mexico and not a thing is done. One of the guns is even used to murder two US law enforcement officers and still not a single person is brought to task.

You guys are cranking now. lol The largest army in the world is the U.S. hunter. Like the emperor of Japan said before Pearl harbor. Don't attack the mainland there is a gun behind every blade of grass. The right to bear arms is what will keep this country in check and deter enemies but immigration will be what brings this country to the brink of existence. JMO I'm not for any party and don't vote because I haven't seen one president or candidate I would vote for since I could and I was born in 1970.

Yes, What's your point? WHAT'S YOUR ANSWER? A Mason is sometimes asked by a friend, a neighbor, or a business associate, "What do the Masons do?" The question may be worded more generally, "What are the Masons?" In either case, the Brother is challenged by the realization that there is no simple answer which he can rattle off "from the top of his head," because the questioner is really asking him for a comprehensive explanation about what organized Freemasonry is, what its principles and purposes are, what programs it is engaged in, how it carries them out, and what satisfactions the individual Mason derives from his Masonic membership. Some of these considerations arouse the fraternal doubt that "you can't tell that," or "that's secret," so that the Brother's reply is marked by hesitation or reluctance to explain. Puzzled by the difficulty of knowing what facets of the vast subject of Freemasonry the questioner is really inquiring about, the Mason "just doesn't know where to begin, " and too often may avoid a simple statement of facts. He isn't sure of what to say. Or, knowing that his questioner is a "practical man of affairs" who measures outcomes quantitatively, in materialistic terms, he realizes that Freemasonry's reputation cannot be explained by charts, statistics, or financial statements, because the Fraternity's real worth can be expressed only in spiritual terms, and that is rather difficult to explain to the uninitiated. Masonic terminology, the most comfortable words with which to reply, seems inadequate or out of place. Masonic "secrecy" gets in the way. Embarrassment is probably the commonest cause of a Brother's difficulty in replying to the question. He is embarrassed because he realizes that he doesn't really know enough about the Fraternity to give a good simple reply. He knows that there is much more Masonic activity going on in other lodges all over the country and throughout the world, but he has never taken the time to experience some of it or to read about it with real interest. He hasn't given much thought to the subject. He never expected to be asked such a question by a non-Mason outside the lodge. Even though he has experienced Masonry, he has never tried to express in words just what Freemasonry means to himself. A well-informed Brother, therefore, will prepare himself for the possibility of being asked such a question. Even though no one ever asks the question, he will have the confidence of knowing what Freemasonry means, especially to himself. First of all, he will determine to give a Masonic answer, one which asserts the real nature of the Fraternity as a spiritual force, as "a way of life" which seeks to improve men morally and spiritually, by associating with other idealistic men who want to improve the quality of life around them by means of a brotherhood which emphasizes the Fatherhood of God. In an age which derides ideals, absolutes, the concepts of law and order, and advocates relativism instead of standards of excellence, which angrily demands rights instead of responsibility, and which preaches a nihilistic doctrine of individualism (doing your own thing), Masons find it difficult to explain the Fraternity's idealism and its charitable and educational purposes. But it must be done. A Mason must give a Masonic answer to the question, "What are the Masons." There are really so few "secrets" which a Mason is required to keep, and so much that he should be proud to proclaim to others, that his principal concern in answering questions is probably the doubt that he can give an adequate Masonic reply. The esoteric parts of the ritual work, the grips and pass-words of the three degrees, these are really the only "secrets" which should be kept inviolate. Because it is impossible to communicate to the uninitiated the joys and satisfactions of brotherhood experienced in "the labors of the lodge," this too becomes a secret because it is inexpressible. But there is so much that can be told about Freemasonry, about the particular lodge, about the individual Mason, that the real problem in answering the question, "What do the Masons do?" is to say only enough to satisfy the questioner without boring or distracting him. He can point out that Freemasonry is an educational organization. By means of the ritualistic ceremonies and other educational programs, Masons learn and teach the truths of morality, justice, patriotism, and the necessity of brotherly love to achieve those universal ideals. Reverence for the Great Architect is inculcated because men are brothers only if they are related to God as the, sons of the Creator Father. He can explain that Masonic meetings, while resembling the meetings of any organized society, have a distinctly Masonic character.. They are opened and closed with prayer. They are patriotic because the nation's flag is kept in an honored place in the lodge and properly saluted with the pledge of allegiance. They are opened and closed with Masonic ceremonies to remind the members of the principal purposes of the Fraternity, which are to develop brotherly love and respect for truth, not the truths of scientific facts or history, but the truths which guide a man to live happily and harmoniously with his fellow man. For that reason Masonic meetings do not permit the introduction of discussions about sectarian religious differences or partisan political opinions. A Masonic lodge, if it is working seriously, teaches its members the principles involved in attaining a universal Brotherhood of Man under the Fatherhood of God. A Mason is also free to explain that Freemasonry is a charitable organization, which acts to relieve the distress of local individuals who are victims of calamity, and that it has created programs and institutions to care for its needy senior citizens, or to provide scholarship aid for worthy and needy young people in college. Masonic Homes and Hospitals, Grand' Lodge Scholarship Programs, Charity Funds, and the Hospital Visitation Program of the Masonic Service Association are examples of such achievements. Freemasonry is also, but not primarily, a social organization, which arranges special meetings to which are invited wives, children, neighbors and friends for the purposes of entertainment and sociability. Masons seek the pleasure of associating with other members of the community, hoping thereby to reveal the serious and idealistic nature of the Fraternity's objectives. There is so much that a Mason can tell about his beloved Fraternity. But the way in which he tells it is more important than what he tells. When a Mason is conscious and proud of the moral and spiritual achievements he has made through Masonry, when he has been inspired to display the beauties of friendship, morality, and brotherly love, when he realizes that his own personal life is the most important evidence he can give to show what a Mason is, he usually finds it very easy to talk about the Fraternity to his non-Masonic friends. When he knows that his lodge is a spiritual force, when it is learning and teaching its members the universal ideals of the Craft, when it is actively promoting charitable programs and pursuing truth, he will tell what Freemasonry is with conviction and enthusiasm. But he must know what he is talking about. This essay suggests only in general terms what he can talk about. He should be prepared to fill in the details. When he is convinced that he can supply those details, he is ready to answer the questions, "What do the Masons do?" and "What are the Masons?" When he is asked the question he must then decide on how much or how little to say. A brief but adequate reply is advised, for if the questioner is not satisfied, he will undoubtedly ask for further information. The following answer is only a suggestion. "Masons are men who voluntarily asked to join a lodge. They were accepted because they were good men who believe in God and hold high ethical and moral ideals. They go to meetings which they call the lodge, in order to learn and to teach what 'friendship, morality, and truth really involve, and to practice on a small scale the reality of brotherhood. They also have meetings open to their wives, children, and friends where they promote an understanding of the serious nature of the Fraternity by entertainment and sociability. Practical programs for charity and relief are planned and executed. The special kinship they feel for each other as a brotherhood is their deepest satisfaction." Up to A Page About Freemasonry main page. Last revised: 01/14/2010 02:39:05

I saw a chicken lay the same egg three times !!!

Just a thought. I actually prefer a .30-06. If you are new and don't know where this hunting will take you down the road it would be a good gun for any North American big game animal (except probably Grizz). You can load up and load down depending on the quarry. I have shot some of the reduce recoil rounds and they are pussycats to shoot. I would imagine would even be nicer out of an outo loader. I don't think you can really go wrong with any of the cartriges based on the .30-06 or .308 they are all proven rounds for whitetail. I would look at cost and ammo availability since you don't reload.

Oh Virgil, I just knew you would show up here in time. First I have yet to see Early provide any type of points other than the views of many here are wrong or as you put it narrow and misguided. Many of the liberal views are rejected right away. you know why? because they are in direct contradiction to the values and upbringing that many hold true. Second I NEVER said I or anyone that holds the same thoughts and values as me are stewards of patriotism or family values but I can assure you that Liberals are not. it is directly contradictory to their beliefs. Anyone that comes on a huntinfg or gun owners website and voices a contradictory view should expect resistance. If I had any desire to go on PETA's websitte and discuss hunting and trapping I would certainly think that I would be treated in the very same way. But voicing a contradictory view is not bad and back it up with facts. To stroll in and take a view that those on here are knucle dragging beasts isn't the way to get you view understood.

I bet if we lined all of you fellas up and delayed the nodding heads by a second we could get you to do the wave like at sporting events. Both sides of the political spectrum aren't worth a poop if you haven't noticed.

Thinking positively about next year, I'd like to see some antlers drop mid October :-)

132 is correct. The picture didn't do it justice but there is a clear hole in one of the ribs. Something punctured the ribs. That section of that one rib bone is entirely missing. The rib comes down from the spine, section of rib missing (where the hole is) then rest of rib continues again after the whole.

Rifle choice aside...... If you are from Lake Katrine you have access to lots of State land in close proximity. Some can be productive; other areas not so much. It might get discouraging at times especially for a newbie; and this year with a poor acorn crop, even for seasoned vets. There are many local hunting clubs close to you; I would suggest finding one and maybe pick up some help starting out.

Free thinker is what liberals call themselves when they self loathe.

Yes, if that religion threatens the United States dam straight. Or anyone else, get the message. I am with you on this Skillet.

Think I'll stick to hunting stuff and such !

i have the chefs choice 3 stage and all i can say is, its amazing! it put an edge on my hunting knife that i was able to gut and butcher the deer with one sharpening! a dull knife is unsafe, since i got the 3 stage its made a lot of things easier.. i highly recommend it to anyone. it puts a 3 angle edge on your knife.

Don't ever confuse owning a firearm as simply a hunting tool. Owning a firearm is necessary to the protection of one's liberty and nation. The fact it can put food on the table is just a bonus. That is no to say that a firearm used for hunting must hold more than 5 rounds, mine don't. But you should own at least firearm that does hold more than 5 rounds. Freedom is not free and you may have to defend it one day.

And I know the suburbanites like to puff out their chests and point to the plushness of their schools and all the luxuries that their tax money supplies. But the fact is that they are still cranking out a heavy percent of idiots and all they have bought with their excessive amounts of tax money is institutions of babysitting until their offspring reaches an age where they can off-load them on the rest of society. wow, that's bitter ....... sorry ....... lol.

Being married to a teacher in an inner city school in one of the larger cities in Upstate New York, the number one problem is lack of parental involvement. School is treated like daycare, and school employees are given no respect. I regularly volunteer at school functions for her, and at their annual outing to a local state park I bring several fishing poled, tackle, and worms and help the kids’ fish. For many it’s their first time and they all seem to enjoy it. I usually help out 20-30 kids within a four hour period. They catch anything from sunfish and perch to small mouth bass and rainbow trout. Spend a little time with these kids and they’ll surprise you. Unfortunately they don’t have this kind of role model at home or in their neighborhood.