Doc

I think in a lot of cases, members forgot that this is just a forum comprised of opinions and took everything spoken here way to seriously. But even more likely they simply had life get in the way and decided to do something else with their free time.

Look at all those turkey dinners!

And then there was good ol' Bubba who always had the attitude that it had to be "his way or the highway"....ha-ha-ha. Looks like it turned out to be The Highway for him.

Ha-ha-ha..... You mentioned a push mower. I remember when that used to mean the old reel type mowers that you pushed by hand to make the reel blade rotate against a stationary knife blade to cut the grass. Luckily, I was too little to have that job. That was Dad's job until he decided to do the lawn mowing with the 8N and the sickle-bar mower.

73 and only a couple months from 74.

I have several patents, but unfortunately the company that I worked for owned rights to all patents and all intellectual property that employees came up with that related to or could relate to their business. It was part of the terms of employment. And of course they had a battery of patent attorneys on the payroll to do the searches and file the patents. It is not a cheap process, so if as an individual you are going to hire an attorney and move through the process yourself, it is a huge gamble, and you had better have the cash to convert it from a patented idea to a marketable product. Or you need the confidence that some entrepreneur will pay cash for the rights to the idea. I have many inventions laying in my shop downstairs that I have actually used that I watched others eventually patent and market. Probably the best one was a magnetic arrowrest that several years later someone marketed as the Terry Rest. They sold a bunch of them. There was also a bow level that I never perfected. It worked on the principle of a pendulum wire that would quickly align with a scribed vertical line to show when bow was canted or not. I also did sights and lighted sights and a whole lot of other products. There also was my tube sight that could only be looked down through in only one way, which got rid of a whole variety of grip variations and torqueing problems. It was an early version of a "front/rear" sight. There were problems with coming up with a workable prototype with the limited tools in my shop. None of these and other products were ever pursued because of patent costs. So I just used some of them for my own use, and they served their purpose until somebody came along with better ideas.

Mowing now is mostly just to blow the leaves off the lawn so that they don't get so thick that I can't handle them. But yes the grass is still growing. End of the month, things will be put away for the winter.

Does it work?

I have not missed an election in the 54 years that I have been eligible. Registered to the Conservative party because that has always reflected my primary values and most of my core principles. All of that and I still live in a commie state represented by all these people that seem to feel bad that we have any rights at all left. But, I can truthfully say that I had no part in electing these clowns. At least the local elections always seem to come out the way that I vote. Small victories here and there .... lol.

Well, it certainly is warranted. I'm not saying that I agree with it, but if all those calling bowhunters selfish exclusionary elitists and all ticked off that someone is trying to tell them what weapons they can use in a bow season are to have any credibility at all, they too would be shouting "Come one...come all, everyone is invited!" Otherwise, they too by there own definition are exclusionary, selfish elitists that are only interested in telling people what they can or cannot use during bow season.

See, now there is a guy that truly cannot be called selfish or elitist or any of those other disparaging names that crossbow supporters are so fond of calling bowhunters. Steve863 is for opening up bow season for whatever anyone wants to use. Look at all the people that would be made happy. No exclusionary attitudes there. Bring it all on. Don't be telling people what they can and cannot use to hunt deer with during bow season.

A huge percentage of the weather in bowseason consists of overcast, partially drippy weather. Whenever you see that graphic on the forecast that shows the little cloud with drops of water shown underneath, that does not mean that a deluge will begin in the morning and continue until dark. In fact most of the time it is indicating that there will be a chance for brief isolated showers some time during the day. So those that roll over and go back to sleep simply because a potential brief shower is predicted at some point in the day is basically throwing away a huge percentage of the season each year. And of course the opposite can happen too where the chances of rain are under-predicted. So it is entirely possible that you will find yourself surprised on stand by one of these brief isolated showers, or something a lot more substantial. So there is no doubt that rain gear will figure into your hunting at some point in the season if you intend to maximize the opportunities. And if you are out there on one of these normal questionable days, you will likely be wearing some form of rain gear. If you are wearing rain ear, it is important to spend some time on the practice range shooting with it on. That is why I asked the question regarding choices of rain gear for bow hunting. I am still interested in what those choices are based on function, and lack of interference issues and minimum noise. I don't really care who only goes out on bluebird sunny days only, or who shoots crossbows, or any of those other unrelated issues. Quite simply, what rain gear do you use that serves your bowhunting the best?

Any body have problems bowhunting with rain gear on. I have all kinds of string clearance problems and noise-making crinkly sounds as I draw the bow. Ponchos are out .... lol. What kinds of solutions have you guys found?

Quote from article: Cody Pernice, 28, was spotted sitting on a hunting chair, attached to a tree in the woods off Connecticut St. and Clermont Ave. in Tottenville at about 6 p.m., cops said. I gotta go get me one of those hunting chairs attached to a tree.

I'm not sure I am 100% sold on my own reply. But it just seems a little weird to be airing our dirty laundry in public when we have so many looking for material to attack bowhunting with. It just seems like we are compiling electronic documentation for their use.

Yes, there was a huge step when we went from traditional equipment to compounds, but to say that it was the same magnitude as going from compounds to crossbows may be stretching it quite a bit .....lol. There were a whole lot of mental and physical disciplines that are still required to shoot all vertical bows that simply do not apply with crossbows.

Well then, stop whimpering every time I state the obvious regarding how your opinions about archery wounding losses are identical to those issued by gun hunters. You want to disallow any replies that dare to show that guns are a true factor in the future of bowhunting and every time that is pointed out you start whining some nonsense about spinning and twisting or what ever favorite buzz-word suits your imagination. I simply stated that your comments about wounding losses with vertical bows are exactly the same that I have heard spoken by gun hunters, and you fly off into a hissy fit about twisting your words and spinning something or other. Get over it and understand that just because you declare the discussion ends at archery only, doesn't make it true. The future of bowhunting does not reside only with bowhunters no matter how good your blinders are.

Am I being overly paranoid in feeling a bit weird about preparing a wounding loss database for any member of anti bowhunting organizations that happen upon this site? Most of the entries are not really all that complimentary to the sport and anyone who is interested in quoting self-confessions right from the horse's mouth would see this stuff as a goldmine for newspaper editorials and such.

I was wondering about that myself. The only thing I can think of is that perhaps he didn't want to provide any "warning shots" while he was trying to find the effective center of the crowd for starting his spray of bullets.

Ok, I get the distinction you are making. It is a bit of a stretch but I get it.

I know you don't give a damn what gun hunters say (or anyone else). It doesn't advance your argument to allow the discussion to go anywhere beyond your nose and the carefully laid out scenarios and limitations that you think you have control over. But there are people out there that welcome your little fantasies about shoving more advanced weapons into bow season to help the "wounding loss" abuses of the evil vertical bow. Those gun hunters that you are desperately trying to exclude from the discussion have been saying exactly the same thing for years and truly welcome your words. And by the way I never suggested that you were for guns in bowseason, but for some reason you have slapped on the blinders and choose to hide from any suggestion that others may not pay any attention to your little rules and limitations. I have a news flash for you.... You don't get to set the rules. In spite of what you say, the future is not limited to what bowhunters or crossbow hunters want. We really don't get to exclude gun hunters from the discussion like you would like to do.There really are gun hunters who want a piece of the bow season, and they are more than happy to use the very same arguments that you put forth for your beloved crossbows. So don't be getting all bent out of shape when I and others constantly remind you of a little bit of reality.

And yet there seems to have been enough difficulty actually making the threat a reality such that they have not been a significant threat or presence since the late 30's. In fact even with this latest deal in Las Vegas, Paddock had to resort to an auto-wannabe instead of the real thing. This cobbled-up news story sounds a lot like someone creating their own news..... again. Anything for a headline .....eh?

Wow, they must have one heck of set of jaws on them ..... lol. That is pretty impressive.

Well, I think I saw and heard enough in those videos of the Las Vegas attack to convince me that I don't really want to see full auto rifles on the street, or even anything that mimics full auto. I guess we all draw the line at different places. Some may want to stop at grenade launchers or flame throwers or bazookas or maybe small personal nukes ..... lol. I draw the line at full auto.

I have a lot of sympathy for those around our area that might have gone out this morning. I don't think they make adequate rain gear to handle the downpour that just finished up. And the wind was howling like crazy.