Culvercreek hunt club

I am not condoning anything. I think safety has to be first and foremost in any hunting situation. I just like to understand where other hunters "lines" are and how they arrive at them. But you can't really help yourself in your comments...lol. your last post was great right up until the end. It is almost like you can't help but to include a negative qualifier. "Jeeze honey you look great, that red dress doesn't make you look nearly as fat as the blue one" "If you're on public land or in an area surrounded by other land owners (and especially if rifle hunting) then flailing away is a little dangerous in my opinion. Do you disagree?" to start you view multiple shots are moving targets as "flailing away" and will be unsafe if you are on property that is public land or land surrounded by other landowners. I see it a bit differently. I certainly can see shots like that being unsafe but I am willing to bet the person doing it would still be unsafe with the one standing still as well. a safe backdrop is still a safe backdrop and I am sure when you move into an area, like many of us, the first thing you do is study the surroundings. I don't have to hunt a property for long or have much prior experience to understand the hazards and no shot areas. I haven't shot anyone and I hardly ever make anyone hit the deck from stray shots. I don't think we can put enough emphasis on safety but as important as that is I think it is also important NOT to paint any general scenario as unethical or unsafe.

Now hold on a minute, Belo. so now you are questioning the ethics and safety of it? why would you assume a 200 yard shot is unsafe? the fact the target is moving has nothing to do with it if the same safety rules are observed on the moving target as with a standing one. Not to bust your stones but It sure comes across like you life and hunting mentality is up on a pedestal higher than a tree stand..lol.

I am not baiting you. It is a tough question especially for anyone that is opposed to taking running shots. Those same questions you posed for the second follow up shot on a deer we aren't sure we hit could be asked about that very first shot at a running deer as well. About 10 years ago I was working out of town and ended up with one weekend to hunt. A buddy invited me to his farm because I had a doe tag for that area and he had several does making daily trips to an isolated alfalfa field. As we walked up the access trail we saw the back of a deer walking across the field at about 125 yards. In about 30 yards it would be out of the draw in the middle of the field. He had me quickly get to the end of the access trail. I was set and when the deer cleared the swale it lifted its head and it had really great antlers. I shot first and the deer showed no signs of being hit. The two of us unloaded our 1187's and the deer ran back into the swale area of the field and out of sight. No signs ever of being hit. We circled the entire field to look for tracks of blood. Nothing. We went the the middle were we last saw the deer and there it was laying. One shot. Double lung. Slug was under the skin on the off side shoulder It was a Barnes expander bullet shot out of my Federals. Or was it his? He was shooting the same Roy da as me and we didn't know it. I asked if he would mount it and when he said yes I let him tag it. We have no idea who got it but it is a big main frame 8 with matching long drop tines on both sides. It is mounted with a picture of the two of us with the buck. Worked out well for us but could have worked out poorly too I guess. I had practiced during the summer. Had made longer shots on moving game and so has he. I don't really think there is a wrong or right answer but I can't agree with a look down the nose at someone who feels confident because of experience and practice in taking one of those shots. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free

"Generally". But not every time. so if one doesn't see a sign it was hit right after the first shot, should they take the second once it starts moving?

This is to be expected whenever you have more than one female involved. Lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free

Although youthought you had more than 4...LMAO

That was kind of where I was going but I have seen so many deer take off and show no or very little sign of being hit. Do you hold off on the second shot until you see a stumble? Is it only ethical to take that second shot if you "know" the first one connected? what if you did miss the standing shot? If that is the only etical shot to take so you aren't a slob hunter then why on earth go out in thewoods with anythig other than a single shot? I guess so when there is a group of really deaf deer that come in you can get standing shots on a few of them....lol (the term "you" was not directed at you Phade it was in general)

Until I run out of tags. 1reg season 2 bow ML 2 DMP from fisrt drawing 2 nuisance tags 2 (about guaranteed) in 2nd drawing 2 signed over. Don't know what I am going to do with my time in Novermber since I should be filled with these in October.......lol

I wasn't speak that far in the future. You shoot and put the next shell in the chamber. The deer has taken off running. Do you shoot the second time? how about the third?

Funnels from bedding to feed and hope a few of the ones on the cameras show up. I only hae a few weekends to get it done before I take the wekend trips up North for the ML and Reg Season openers.

Well sam at 6' and 195# and being able to fit into a 24x24x36 chest, if the whole hunting thing doesn't work out you can always go to Vegas and get a job in one of those on the strip magic shows...lol

well let me ask the guys down on running shots a question. You have a deer standing at your self imposed renge limit, what ever that is. Lets say you are practiced and confident to 100.200 or 300 yards. have a great steady rest and feel great about putting the deer in the cross hairs. You shoot and the deer takes off running. What is your next move?

You seem to see thie actions or inactions as fine when they suit your views or needs.

sam, what are the dimensions of that? Great idea!

Oh and the results of a survey are facts. they may not be 100% accurate but if the results are outside the margin of error it is pretty safe. If you don't believe they results to be accurate why not get behind actually having a vote among license purchasers next year to settle this once and for all. if you are right and the majority don't want it then you should be right ont he band wagon.

survey are not facts. I agree but I stated the majority of NY hunters DO support the inclusiong and you seem to have had a problem with that. NYS DEC sees the results as "enough" of a fact that they included it as part of their 5 year plan.

Huh,,, whats wrong? You call someone out (just my opinion?), they prove you are the one with your head up your arse and now it is "whatever"? I think it is best that you stay on the porch with the pups.

One worse. last year on opening morning of gun my buddy went into his ladder stand. Got in it and it just didn't feel right. (it was still dark). Got his light out and the stabilizer bracket tot he tree had been cut loose and the long diagonal straps that go fromt eh platform arund the back of the tree and to the ladder had been cut. Some one was out to do harm. so give them a quick look over before you get into any of them.

I was speaking of DEC's poll. so it was a FACT.

I have to say that if I didn't have buddies or easy access to shooting I would be bored out of my mind practicing archery alone. I do enjoy it with a gun by myself when I am working up new loads but with a bow it sucks by yourself. IMO

But honestly you stated you were denied for two years. What happend to the preference point from last years denial?

are they home made or modified trailers? How close are you to the trailer weight limits? I have seen this in home mages if the axle isn't truely perpendicular to the tongue.

It is fine to do. We do it all the time for our sausage making and never have a problem. We thaw it controlled like in a fridge or coolers. I would do it as soon as you can break it apart in pieces you can fit in the grinder. We vacuum seal the chunks for grinding as we do the deer and the finished product is also vacuum sealed.

How many sheets of paper are you licensed to take this year? Just kidding. But seriously. is it not grouping well? what is wrong with how it is shooting that you are focused on the paper tuning?

Doe, you buying Chukkars? When my Springer was 3-4 months old he had a hard time mouthing a bird as large as a pheasant. The chukkars seemed to work better and the breeder I bought him from just happen to run a shooting preserve. Since I had one of her babies and often bought birds from her she would call me after they had a big hunt ont he preserve and let me come take some left overs for practice.