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His face is messed up. I wonder if he got hit by a car. would explain the weird position of his pedical. Might be a hemeragic fever survivor also.

I have to agree with Doc. My daughters school you get rung in just like the shooter did. No one at the door to stop and check you. They open that door anyone with anything can get in. Lockem down. Its the only rational answer because with millions of guns in circulation banning one type will not stop anything at all. They can ban all the so called "assult weapons " they want but it still wont stop the killing. That bill gets signed there will be another a week later and they will sign another bill and there will be another a week later. Its never going to end and you will never stop it.

Did we determine who's peter is longer yet, or are we still argueing?

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” Ben Franklin “Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth.” George Washington ”Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.”George Washington ”It will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon the supposition he may abuse it.” George Washington ”The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted.” James Madison ”The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good.” George Washington ”Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.” James Madison

A ban is a little to late isnt it. there are millions of AR 15's, AK'S, mini 14's ect.. in circulation. Changes nothing. There is a law against owning a handgun without a permit to. I dont see drug dealers and gangsters running down to get them legal. Only thing it does do is make alot of people who own them a little richer since there price will sky rocket. It would be a good investment to go get one right now if you can. You might pay 1200 for one but pretty soon the price will double. Along with high cap mags to. Also this is a good thing, the last time the Dems pushed gun control legislation they all lost their jobs next election. So Republicans will be in control of the Senate to pretty soon.

Black, green, brown bead head wolly buggers tied with a little flashaboo in the tail works great right now. Sinking or floating line. Just tie a longer leader if you use floating in a deep stream. Ive got 4 browns over 20 inches out of the no kill area on the Genny during the winter using these.

I shot a squirrel once at 20 yrds with a recurve. 40 yrds with sights and a compound should be a cake walk.

And if you beleive that then you must know that there is nothing you can do by worrying about it or fighting it. Its going to happen, only question is are you going to be here when it does? Luke 21 >> New International Version 1984 “Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The time is near.’ Do not follow them. 9When you hear of wars and revolutions, do not be frightened. These things must happen first, but the end will not come right away.” 10Then he said to them: “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. 11There will be great earthquakes, famines and pestilences in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven. 12“But before all this, they will lay hands on you and persecute you. They will deliver you to synagogues and prisons, and you will be brought before kings and governors, and all on account of my name. 13This will result in your being witnesses to them. 14But make up your mind not to worry beforehand how you will defend yourselves. 15For I will give you words and wisdom that none of your adversaries will be able to resist or contradict. 16You will be betrayed even by parents, brothers, relatives and friends, and they will put some of you to death. 17All men will hate you because of me. 18But not a hair of your head will perish. 19By standing firm you will gain life. 20“When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. 21Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city. 22For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written. 23How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! There will be great distress in the land and wrath against this people. 24They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. 25“There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. 26Men will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. 27At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”

I find the easiest way to do it is to break your land into grid squares and walk across the first grid move over 5-10 yrds depending on visibility and walk across again. Keep doing this till the square is searched and move on to the next area and do the same. May take a few weeks to search a good chunk of land but you will either have a hand full of sheds or you will know for sure they arent there. I find fields and field edges are the fastest, easiest and most productive. With woods being more difficult and mountainous terrain being almost impossible to locate a shed. Most of the sheds I have found on the mountain were by dumb luck. And upon looking around I can never come up with a good reason as to why it would be there. Wolly how do you search?

It is pretty hypocritical of main stream media isnt it! On CBS, FOX OR NBC the news crews are lamenting and over sensationalizing the tragedy while hrs later you can watch mass murder, and glorification of such murders on their own channels. They call for a ban on guns, well how about you first ban the glorification of violence on your own channels . Violent video games and movies do nothing but desensitize one to such violence. And we wont even get into the filth and degredation on the pay channels. Garbage in garbage out.

I use to have a corrolla about 15 yrs ago that the trunk looked like a mob boss owned it. Hauled alot of pigs and deer in the trunk of that thing. Now I own a Pontiac vibe. All the seat lay down and the backs are hard plastic. Drag the deer up in and away i go. Ive seen body bags for deer. Might want to look into those.

I think thats why I didnt see any deer today. I was looking down most of the time looking for sheds. Nice find!!

Its an easy fix! Less entrances to the school, metal detectors on the doors and an armed gaurd at each door. Its that way for most government buildings. But your children are not worth the expense and the time to them so it will never happen.

And they say there is no big deer on state land. 7s Was a wash here to. High wind, rain and warm temps kept the deer in their beds and there wasnt a soul in the woods to move them either. Never even heard a shot that I could say was from a muzzleloader.

Went out today for 8 hours and stalked a few different area's. I am very suprised at the lack of fresh deer sign. I even let one 200 acre area set for a week before going back today and I think I found one set of fresh tracks, no deer. I then went to another spot and kicked deer up right at the parking area. Looked like a herd of fawns. Must have been 8 babies, very weird. I did notice though that there are alot of very trusting people out there who do not lock their stands. And very expensive stands to. Though I guess they say a lock only keeps honest people honest. Am going out probably one more time this week but we'll see. Pulling my stands later this week and getting ready for some winter walleye fishing in the river. I can smell the fillet's cooking now!!!

I can just see Obama, Reid, Pelosie, and Bidden high fiveing and grinning now that they can push there gun agenda. I bet they were sad it wasnt an AK or a "black rifle ". But I bet they will make do. Conn. has some of the strictest anti gun laws on the books and that couldnt even stop it. The monsters of the id cannot be stopped.

Nice!!

I would have been horrified the first time I shot a deer with them if I hadnt been so happy.

Interesting article Wooly. http://www.grandviewoutdoors.com/deer-hunting/articlecontent/1/2012/3191/when-do-deer-drop-their-antlers One thing we do know is that after the rut, a buck’s testosterone levels begin to decrease, and when they drop to a certain level, antlers are shed. Since antlers shed at different times in certain areas and in certain years, something causes the testosterone levels to vary from area to area and winter to winter. Thus, the real question is, what causes the testosterone levels to drop to the required level? We know that testosterone and mating are related, so high numbers of does could lead to late shedding of antlers. Here is how that works: Testosterone in bucks stays high as they chase estrous does. Does will only come into estrus if they have not mated, so when you have large numbers of does, they do not all get bred in the first go-around. When that occurs, hot does will still be popping up later in winter, and rutting bucks will be chasing them. The more does that are not bred, the later the bucks’ antlers drop. And once most does are mated, the bucks’ testosterone levels drop and so do their antlers. One researcher working with captive deer suggested that bucks in poor nutritional condition, or those that are diseased, shed their antlers earlier than they would had they been healthier. Poor nutrition causes testosterone levels to drop and, as mentioned earlier, when testosterone drops, so do antlers. Other researchers have found that older bucks often shed earlier, and suggest that this is due to the physical toll on their bodies paid during the rut. Chasing does, fighting other bucks and being too busy to eat — all reduce bucks’ body condition. Thus, when the rut ends, if they are really run down, their testosterone levels drop faster than normal. One New York study showed that 62 percent of bucks 3½ years old and older dropped their antlers by mid-December, while only 23 percent of younger bucks did. Tied to this poor-nutrition theory is habitat. If habitat is over-browsed, then the body condition of bucks in the area will be poor. Since we know that testosterone levels drop when the bucks are undernourished, then poor habitat might also cause them to drop antlers earlier. In turn, I would suspect that deep early snows, which would limit food intake, also impact the time that antlers drop. In fact, studies show that farther North, where snows are heavier, antlers begin to drop from mid-December to late January. If poor nutrition leads to early shedding, then good nutrition should lead to late drops — right? In fact, studies show that bucks from the Midwest farm country (where nutrition is very good) don’t begin to drop antlers until mid-January or later. Even though these bucks rut hard and their overall body condition is down, their testosterone levels apparently aren’t affected as much as deer from poorer habitats. Thus, they keep their antlers longer. Good nutrition leads to one other factor that causes bucks to keep their antlers later in winter. When doe fawns have good feed, many of them will be bred in their first year. A study done in Iowa showed that almost 75 percent of doe fawns were bred, most during December, again leading to bucks keeping their antlers later than in other parts of the country. This correlation between good feed/habitat and antler shedding has led several researchers to conclude that antler retention is a good measure of the habitat. If the antlers drop later, those bucks live in good habitat. If bucks tend to drop earlier, such as mid-December to mid-January, those bucks live in poor habitat. Earlier I mentioned that when you have lots of does, there might be some later winter breeding, and this keeps testosterone levels higher for longer, leading to late shedding of antlers. However, usually when you have high doe numbers, you get overbrowsed habitat and poor nutrition. As just mentioned, this leads to early shedding. No wonder hunters banter this about every year. So many variables can impact the time when antlers shed. One researcher in Mississippi looked at the casting dates for individual bucks in captivity and found that as long as the environment was the same, individual bucks dropped their antlers about the same date every year. These captive bucks got the same diet all the time, thus their body condition probably stayed the same after the rut, year after year. The fact that they dropped their antlers on the same date each year suggests some kind of innate program within each buck that causes them to drop their antlers. That’s fine for captive bucks, but in the wild, other factors listed above come into play, causing the great variation we see in the timing of antler drop. The question of why some bucks drop early or late is not easy to answer, simply because there are so many things happening in the deer woods that impact antler casting. Will knowing all this impact your hunting success? Of course not, but I hope that I’ve “shed” some light on why there is so much variation in the timing antlers are cast. It’s something to talk about the next time you and your hunting buddies get together.

Thats crazy!!

Lots of flying squirrels up there to, atleast on murry. They use to make nests in our dressers and scare the crap out of us when we showed up for summer vacation and opened them.

It will be interesting to see. Here in Binghamton the rain capital of NY, we didnt see much drought. Maybe a few weeks where the lawns turned brown but then it didnt stop raining after that. Im still trying to fill tags right now, so no shed hunting till they are filled, unless I stumble upon something.

Good luck!!

Sorry ment valuable.

Minus the deer are those all tresspassers?