moog5050

It will do the job, but not as versatile as the grayling, especially if you want to play with different fletching set ups, which you will when you start doing your own fletching. I would give you the mini if I hadn't tossed when cleaning out the shop room. I bought it used on AT so it was only a $15 loss.

Seriously, how funny would it be if he got you on cam taking donuts from the drum, maybe with a waive and a steaming cup of coffee. Better yet, throw on a Yogi costume when you do it. BTW - I agree with others that you should leave it up to the landowner.

Found it on line Belo. It is the grayling jig. Works great. Just be sure to clean it after every use or you will get build up of glue on the clamps.

For what its worth Belo, I never liked the mini. Had one and tossed it. It was a pain. I have a cheap plastic version of the bitz (forget the brand name) but it works great for fletching vanes and feathers, 3 or 4, offset and with a helical. More time consuming when fletching than the AZ mini, but cleaner and more options. Be careful or you will end up buying a saw next and doing all of your own fletching. Its actually fun at times. Also, get the loc-tite gel. I never have loose feathers or vanes and you can buy it at home depot or lowes.

I would check to see if there are any donuts in that drum. I love donuts.

Good luck with him. Nice buck

John may not be aware that Excellus was hacked

Nice!

They have been very effective for me. They are a one and done (or replace blades) head. It helps to shoot heavy poundage. I wouldn't use them if I was shooting 50 or even 60lb bows.

no, no, no - much farther west - Irondequoit Bay In mexico, they are actually seeing some salmon staging

Just saw this. They are still around between 80-130 fow.

Rage hypos 125g and for recurve Strickland helix 175g.

Old stands are often there for a reason.

Core They will not cut it come cold nov. or late season. Stretch for a decent pair of boots. I have muck woody elites that I have used for 3 seasons and are still serviceable. That's less that $50/season. Work in the swamp and snow. Money well spent IMO.

I agree with nixing the food plot idea. Its only 7.5 acres with fields to west and south (assuming N is top of photo). Creek may provide a funnel but without boots on the ground, its tough to tell as its close to the road - should be some crossing areas that are worth a look. Assuming predominate SW wind, I would consider stand in woods near inside corner of field (NW corner of red area) (also depends on crop) and stands N and E of thick areas in the interior where indicated by clear deer trails. I assume one or two sits and you will know where they travel since its a small parcel. Look for bedding areas when you scout too. Good luck and make good shots so you don't have to track off the property.

Bill - nice job on helping a hunter with a specific spot.

I have this scope in 3x9 on my MZ. Optics are excellent, doesn't fog and has held zero for the last two seasons despite some bumping. Its not one of the major names, but I would not change it for a more expensive scope. I have owned some very high end scopes, but for the money, I am very pleased with it. You can get it cheaper if you shop around too. http://hi-luxoptics.com/index.php/riflescopes/toby-bridges-muzzleloader.html

The kind that decides to go to breakfast in freezing rain 15 min before a monster buck walks by the scrape I was hunting and poses for a camera.

Ease up db. I was laughing because WE FAR EXCEEDED what YOU have set as the standard and its impossible to know if even what you suggest is what DEC wants since DEC won't state it. I am no more content with these new ridiculous rules than you. As I explained on August 13: "Frankly, as Phade was suggesting earlier, DEC has created a system to its benefit that puts the BHs in a catch 22. Either BHs will kill and report more doe in the first two weeks allowing DEC to say "see our plan is working" and continuing it. Or, we don't kill and report more doe in the first 2 weeks allowing DEC to say "see BHs can't get it done" and we now need to go to more extreme measure by allowing guns or MLs in early season. No way for BHs to win under these circumstances. DEC has put themselves in a great position to do what they want in these "overpopulated" areas for the foreseeable future without risk of clear objective criticism. Couple that with undefined goals and DEC can justify whatever they choose with regard to altering bow seasons. Great political maneuvering but bad management if they want true results on reducing doe populations now."

LOL - we took about 10 doe on 23 acres last year in 8H and a few more on other parcels in 8H. We did our part.

I agree with this but sure would be bummed if I were BellR if I could only hunt for one deer. I guess two with the bow doe tag. But you are probably right. the option is to hunt where there are more doe.

Fair point BellR. I had not thought about that.

Doc - what do you believe are the current DEC management objectives? Lowering doe numbers and increasing hunter opportunities for mature bucks are at least two of the objectives as I understand it. That understanding is based on what DEC has stated (albeit in generalized terms). Perhaps your objectives and DEC objectives are not completely aligned, but the real question is whether DEC is taking the appropriate steps to meet its objectives. Therein is where I seriously questions the decisions made by DEC and where I think OBR should be a reasonable consideration. Regarding the extra buck, if a hunter is waiting for mature buck no. 2, he/she probably isn't shooting does. I think you have mentioned that you don't wait for a specific category of deer, but many do and eliminating that category after one is down will either result in the hunter killing doe or to just stop hunting. I suspect, without any proof, that the former is more likely. All just my opinion.

Doc I think the point is that if you look to OH as an example, it has many similar characteristics as NY from a deer hunting perspective, but is much different in that it has become a destination state to hunt mature bucks. The question is why. I have no idea whether it can be attributed directly to OH's deer management practices, but it certainly is something I would look at if I was DEC, especially since DEC has stated that it is trying to accommodate some hunters that want bigger horns. I recognize not every hunter cares and perhaps many would rather kill two small bucks than one mature one (or don't care about killing a buck at all), BUT if that is part of DEC's desired result, then it makes sense to look to practices that have yielded such a result. OH, with its many similarities, is a great place to start. I understand your point about further limiting opportunities, but I would be in favor of a OBR. Once that buck is down, if you are a diehard hunter, be it meat or horn hunter, you will shoot does, which accomplishes another objective of DEC.

So what gun did you hunt with Pygmy? More importantly, fixed 4x?