Five Seasons

Dang bro I thought you were out? And you’re back to flush things? Saying you haven’t watched something in 5 years because “felons” is a pretty poopy thing to say... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Hey bubba nice to meet you. Are we friends? cool. come see what i have for sale in my trunk. . Not something that should be given a free nics pass. that's a tough scenario right there. Not one I would necessarily sign on for. However, in most states you don't need a nics to go to a gun range and rent firearms. I dont see taking your buddy hunting or shooting in your back yard or range very different. We're talking about the sale and transfer of ownership.

so to be clear. you admit to being ignorant when you chose to state "The reason I have gotten out of football over the last 5 years is because I will not blindly root for those 4.3 fast felons just because they wear a team Jersey. " because they're not actually felons and many of them do very good things for their community? Is that how "the most educated of people" go about life?

everyone should watch the last 10 seconds of that video!

i do all that except I dont read and ride my bike as much as I would like to. So I can't watch a Bills game on Sunday too?

you realize how ignorant this statement is right? There are no felons in the league. Any player who was convicted of a felony crime and sentenced is not in the league. Now sure you can make a case that some were settled out of court, but that doesn't make them a felon. And if you want to rope smoking weed and a dwi into the mix? Well there are quite a few members on this board you shouldn't associate with either. Out of the 3k plus employees of the nfl only a small handful have had this problem. Meanwhile, many are huge community advocates (see JJ Watt as an example) And if you don't watch football, why do you care what day the superbowl is on and why would you make a post on a hunting forum about it? Education does the body good. Ignorance is not an excuse. http://www.nfl.com/manoftheyear

let me know when the courts are able to define "friends".

done this on a bunch of cars. seems now more and more are coming this way from the factory

Good to know. Didn’t realize there was a new version. Thought the headline was a typo lol Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

So after all that despite all the posts, you do agree in simple background checks like I originally proposed? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Lol, what? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

And college football lol, or has everyone forgot about that? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Yeah at $60k a ticket. More than a lot of you make in a year lol Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

i was thinking it would be 3 or 4 posts in before someone came into a thread about the super bowl just to tell people they wont be watching it. channeling their inner vegan.

Fact is in NY and a few other states already have what i propose as state law. I'd rather we fight against nonsensical laws in the safe act then spending the NRA's time an money fighting a simple background check. You and I will continue to disagree that it does nothing to prevent criminals from getting guns. I gave you 2 examples of how it will help. And you've given no response to them.

I'm glad he pulled through. Anything out of the blue like that can be scary and can also effect loved ones who witness. I hope he makes a full recovery and has no real major affects from the stroke.

I own an lcp. Like most have said it's a cheap gun, and not that it's cheaply made but it doesn't cost a lot. It's small and easy to pocket carry. I've never had a misfire. Of course it's not a fun gun to shoot by any means and I'm not sure anyone buys one to shoot at the range anyhow. If I have any complaint its that I prefer pistols that lock chamber open on the last round. The lcp does not. I recommend the superfly pocket holster. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003K84C9O/ref=pe_385040_30332200_TE_item

you are off your rocker with that stuff. But again please continue to believe that no basic solutions will help stop even some crimes and see where legislation takes us. Or be proactive? and to your "no criminal..." comment. see my memphis example. If i couldn't get weed from my buddy in high school i didn't drive to ave. d to get it. Not as a white boy. I just didn't smoke that night. You decide.

ok so you want to sell your dads old rifle. It's worth money and you're not into guns. You do your conscience some good and even ask the buyer if he's a criminal and if he intends to harm anyone. He says no. You say prove it. How does one prove they're not a criminal? So you make the sale. Happens every day all over the country. but he is. and uses said rifle to snipe people off an overpass. Moral of the story? Don't ever sell your guns private party? You'll get more money just like selling your car private party vs dealer. I'm not against the private sale btw, i just believe there should be a nics check. Are we still confused?

I don't think you're getting it. There is no law that prohibits the sale in most states. If you lived in Mississippi right now like I did for a few years. I could sell you any number and type of personally owned firearms without asking you a single questions on who you are, what your name is, how old you are, what you intend to do with them and if you have a wrap sheet etc. Lets say i really need the money, lost my job and stuff. I post an add online. You just got out of jail and intend to seek revenge against your ex-wife who put you in jail. You message me and we meet up. I sell you 2 shotguns and 3 pistols out of my personal collection. You shoot up the whole house killing her and 3 others. There is no law protecting me because there doesn't need to be. It was a perfectly legal sale. It would be like having a law that says it is ok to go the speed limit. Unless you can prove that I knew you were a convicted felon (which I didn't and didn't ask about because I dont need to). I did nothing wrong according to federal law and many state laws (NY not included). In a federal nics check scenario you have to drive to a back alley in memphis to get your guns instead. Good luck with that. downtown memphis is scary as f. you're just as likely to get jacked and end up with no guns if you're not from around the way.

again, you are incorrect. Unless I knowingly sell it to a minor or felon I am not required to id or ask a single question. There is no obligation or legal repercussions for the seller. So like in the case of the guy who shot the fireman in Webster on Christmas. The buyer knew he was not allowed own firearms and she purchased for him anyhow. That is illegal in all states i believe. However, if I was in another state and sold these on craigslist to the same guy and didn't know him, there is no law violated by the seller, just the buyer. Similarly if you're 17, it's still not illegal for the seller to sell to you. It only gets harry for the buyer if the seller is very clearly underage. This is where some of our school shootings come into play, although i think we would all agree that they're mostly the result of irresponsible parents. On top of all this, the prosecution would need to prove in court that you knowingly sold to someone who was legally bared from owning firearms. That proof isn't always easy. are you starting to see the issue now? what's the fix? a nics check. Make this guy drive down to the ghetto to buy his guns. Make it hard. Drive up the cost of illegal firearms.

i agree with this 100%. A common method is also illegal import. Using the same methods and routes as most of our drugs and human trafficking.

what chance? And why should we make it easy for a criminal? What about a 17 year old who isn't even 18 yet? a nics check costs you $20. Is that really so bad? I don't understand your point. I actually agree with the way the southern states do it. But still a felon could easily buy a pistol just as he could a ruger 10/22. that was my point.

many states do not require a pistol permit either, hence my comment about the south. a permit is only required if you intend to conceal carry. all that's required for that is a fingerprinting, background check and you're set in 4 weeks. it's all done at the dmv btw. to possess a pistol in your car and home is perfectly legal and the same as owning a long gun in ny.