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glassed two long beards working across a field. couple other guys I was with called and called to them. gobbling but they were on a mission and wouldn't change direction. they packed it up to head back to the truck as it was 11:30am. The longbeards disappeared from view heading down into a swamp at the bottom of the valley. I sprinted down the valley to the other side of the swamp. setup a hen decoy out in an adjacent field and I sat tucked into a small brush pile at it's edge. the setup had me next to a barway that connected two fields and the end of the swamp. I called with a mouth diaphragm and they came in hammering through the swamp. they both passed behind me just on the other side of the brush pile, spitting and drumming. came out of the swamp by the barway. the first one was at five steps in front of me. the second one behind it wasn't even into the field yet before the first one started putting. so I let the first one have a 12ga load of Federal 3" #5 heavyweight at around 5 yards. I aimed at the base of the neck because I was afraid I'd miss that close. the second bird flew off. the first didn't flop or flinch but went straight to stone dead. I've since learned that's not the typical encounter when you kill a turkey. lol it got me hooked though.

Despite he said they weren't USDA tested. the answer is probably yes at some point.... I'd think.

NO ....I was wondering where this thread was.

I don't ever pay full price for hunting clothing. like hock3y24 said toward the end or after the season stuff goes on clearance. also places like Cabelas has the bargain cave. it's not necessarily bad stuff, it just means they've got a lot of it not sold or a newer version has come out. I wear Under Armour Coldgear as a base. fleece shirts and possibly pants are worn over those. over those layers i'll wear one or two fleece vests. then you have outer wear jacket and pants. vests work well as they keep most bulk where it's needed, at your torso. you get maximum range on movement in your arms still to mount a gun or draw a bow. collars for base layers are silly and get in the way but most will have them to deal with. layering will allow you to stay comfortable with the changes in temps from early AM to mid day to late evening. you can wear less if you've got a good outer layer that blocks wind and doesn't get you soaked when it's wet. I really like chest pockets for stuff like cellphone, license, wind checker, cloth for my glasses, etc. they're easy to get into with treestand harness on or sitting down with little movement.

I don't ever plan vacation or hunt solely based on the "rutting moon". I hunt when I get the chance. vacation wise I try to avoid hunting in absolute horrible weather that will have movement at a minimum. that said I try to keep an open mind and not ignore the stuff. it shows it all happens within days, but to some people a few days might be all they've got. It's up to them to look at all the factors that attribute to their hunting and weigh which is important at any given time. This stuff is just another tool in the shed when it comes to a hunter putting meat in the freezer or antler on the wall.

good deal... not really looking for one though. hope it works out this time around.

looks great. I like the touch of the bleached skull and field photo to go with it too. full mounts are nice but take up a lot of room unless it's standing. rarely does someone shoot a bear standing I'd think.

listen at dawn and dusk, especially when it cools off. use a crow or owl locator but sparingly if you don't get a response. from what I've seen they haven't separated too much yet but are close. by may you still could have birds move back into the area that could be a few ridges or bottoms from where you are now.

never shot a jake so far.... don't see a reason to start. pass them every year. heck last year I had one come in that I thought was a boomer coming up over the knoll, but it turned out to be a jake. he gobbled hard, strutted, and everything else. stubby beard and shorter tail feathers were plain as day. I had a good time coaxing him from a boss hen for a good 45 minutes. I don't think any less of someone for shooting one and tend to leave them as an opportunity for those who hunt the family farm that don't get a bird often. it's just one of those things that's worked out that way and that I've chosen to stay the course.

...I meant to say I already had the Bowmaddness and I'm getting it ready. I've shot it a few times so far getting it shot and dialed in.

if you go by lunar tables for day light activity you get opening week of bow season is good, the few days leading up to Halloween, November 3-4, November 12-18, the new moon on Nov 22 through thanksgiving week, and then around the second weekend in Dec (13-16th). I got it from this handy PSE calendar.

I'm getting a 2013 PSE Bowmaddness 3G for 3D this year. not 40" but seems pretty stabile. I've found I shoot better with sticking to just one release. I'm shooting a TRU Ball Beast II that's a lot like your short-n-sweet. my backup is actually a fancy, shiny, Stan Shootoff thumb trigger. regardless of what I use I'm definitely not limited by the PSE bows. they can shoot better than my ability. they change them now but my wife has a 2013 PSE Stiletto. Now that is a high performance bow that happens to be for women. that thing flat out shoots and she really likes it. same as your PSE it's a little heavier for what it is, but shoots well.

I wonder if NY has gotten at least 10% registration today. today's the day. good news is we don't have to spend tax dollars on more paperwork.

i'll own up to any of my posts. I don't think it matters exactly where they're going, but that they're going somewhere they don't currently exist. I am with G-Man only in that invasive free ranging species aren't usually good for some native within the habitat. so with this particular case, I hope that they end up within a very large fence at least and don't get out, or maybe they're just farm raised for uses other than hunting. I appreciate the info on testing. I'm sure you'll keep us posted when the live test becomes a reality. I'd think deer farmers will most definitely be one of the first to know. I understand deer farms would benefit a great deal from it, but I'd think most of us here would want to see an advancement like live testing. progress knowing about any disease is a good thing.

Yea actually I do but I don't know everything about it. That's reasons we have discussions here. I think I've been respectful and only expect the same. Just wanted to know more about the whole process. Wasn't implying to deer will spread it but I know it's something that's a part of the process and a potential concern. Honestly though I don't care or expect much. I'll find another deer farmer to ask that's respectful and can actually discuss deer farming.

Multiple questions and I am serious. I assume they are all tested so I guess that was a rhetorical question. The three years old thing I got from being told that tests can give false negatives and symptoms sometimes don't show up for a few years. Not trying to say anything negative. Just wondering how it's being done. Maybe you don't have all details. I'm interested enough to ask. Yah rest of my post about keeping them in a fence is serious too.

well keep them in a pen and things should be fine. hope none have CWD. I'd think they're a few years old now and tested right? I agree with G-Man that invasive species are hardly ever a good thing. are they going in a fence over there?

another thing it helps to have a bucket of warm soapy water and a towel with you. you can periodically rinse stuff off on your hands or knives that starts to dry. also I like to touch up the edges with soapy water on the blade. finishes the edge nice and it cleans any residual metal off the blade. wipe both sides off quick on the towel.

yup i grind last. also ground venison is real sticky and messy if it warms up at all. keep everything real cold for this part and it will save you grief. when grinding the meat twice trickle the once ground stuff into the grinder. don't stuff it. you'll actually grind much faster. first time around cut meat into thin strips (thin enough to fit into the grinder) and let it feed and pull through.

...oh yea if you grind your own, plastic ground meat sleeves that hold a pound or more work well along with tape ties that come with them.

lots of good advice given so far. vaccum sealers are the way to go. you won't process a deer the same as a shop does it. every cut is just how you'd like it. I take the meat off the carcass and bone in biggest sections possible, as soon as possible. easier than skinning and cutting up a partially frozen or real cold deer. i put the meat in meat pans in the fridge covered with plastic wrap for few days or so. meat will drain but don't let it set in blood/liquid. you can get absorbent pads from a butcher that you see in packages you get at the grocery store. good flexible 5-6" narrow boning knives with good grip and a skinning knife/hook are handy. a 5" meat hook helps too but isn't needed. boning knives I've come to like are linked below. http://www.wasserstrom.com/restaurant-supplies-equipment/Product_219088 an easy to use sharpener I've come to like is below and you're going to realize you'll need it and if you use it to touch up the blade a few times throughout the process it'll make your life easier. http://www.ems.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3657122&emssrcid=PPC%3AgooPLAs%3A20614725885All_products&utm_source=gooPLAs&utm_campaign=Product+Listing+Ads&device=c&network=g&matchtype=&gclid=CJ7a_6LC4L0CFa1j7Aod0RMAxQ Food saver vaccum sealers or the like are best and stuff keeps a long time, not getting freezer burn. Like i mentioned above a couple meat pans that take up a shelf in your fridge are handy. it's a bigger investment and depends on what you're doing with it but a grinder for ground venison will be on the wish list. hand crank ones work for a deer or so a year but you'll want to upgrade eventually or borrow someones. smaller commercial ones from say Hobart like I use will last lifetimes but isn't necessary. don't go with a plastic case cheap one though opposed to good metal crank one. you're just wasting your money as it won't last. also check out the videos in the link below. they go into processing. http://www.cwd-info.org/index.php/fuseaction/about.video like the others this comes from experience. dad processed deer and i grew up watching until i was old enough to help out more and more (20+ years).

the fact that he "owes" those taxes and it's to protect the desert turtles is absolutely ridiculous. state/county owned and controlled land which he's had arrangements with them to pay the grazing fees. the cattle and turtles have lived in harmony just fine for life times. if they're so endangered why is the Gov destroying about a 1000 of them? it's literally impossible to make enough of a living if you accrue $1.1 million in federal taxes in that time. one more messed up thing under this administration. half the time I wonder if it's even the President's fault or just the ass-hat people that work under him. Court losses for the Bundy's don't mean anything. They don't make the laws they uphold them, whether right or wrong at times.

there's turkeys around here. matter of fact I was just driving into work here in Albany. right on western ave near Five Guys burger place standing by the cross walk was a hen turkey! lol I wonder if anyone helped it out by pushing the crosswalk button to stop traffic. I mean it is rush hour right now.

Hunters would be much cheaper and more successful. 22 deer for 15k is pathetic

good deal! I've done euros and traditional plaque and antler mounts myself but haven't subjectively shot one big enough to do a full shoulder mount. someday hopefully I will. ....my wife says it has to have double drop tines to mount it in the living room. when I spend more time in the woods and she complains a little I always remind her of the high bar she set.