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What he said. I wonder why this ethics / legality issue never comes up when some one posts a photo of a doe?

Sometimes a true friend is the only one who is willing to say what needs to be said while every one else sticks there head in the sand. You did just that. I had a similar but different situation earlier this year and to my knowledge i am the only "friend" that spoke up. So far the situation seems to be on the right track. If your buddy comes around give your self a big pat on the back. If not move on and as was already said your are a head of the game. Just my 2 cents.

Sorry to hear that.

Ha one road over from my parents place LOL. Glad to see they got nailed. I have seen more than one monster disappear from that area right before the season opens.

12-2-11 38 degrees and sleet. Swirling 2-5 mph wind. Went back to the farm still hunted down in and took a seat over looking a flat in a creek bottom. Sat for about two and a half hours without seeing anything. Walking out jumped a deer about 100 feet from my truck.

12/1/11 Went up to the farm to sit for a couple hours. Settled in by 2:30. 42 degrees and light SW wind. Sat the edge of a bedding area (thicket) with a couple shooting lanes for about 100 yards on either side. Wind died about an hour before dark. About half an hour before sun set i hear what sounds like a truck on the highway. Then i realize its on the farm road no wait its on a tractor trail through the pines. Then the truck crosses through my shooting lane at 100 yards. So i start watching the other lane to see if they push something out the other direction. 5 minutes later the truck comes back through stopping in the shooting lane to take a look at me and drives back up to the top of the hill where he stops. Then i see one of the farmers trucks appear and surprisingly i hear (at about 250 yards) "down in the corner cant miss it". So they head back down the hill and to the "corner" on the opposite side of the bedding area. At this point i am thinking WTF is going on then i remember there is a small plot of trees down in the corner and this guy is looking for that perfect Christmas tree. Once the chain saw fired up, i couldn't help but laugh and decided to pack it in. Still hunted a half mile out and didn't cut a single track crossing the farm road. I am thinking i am going to call it quits on the farm after this season. I got one place i can still think of that might hold some deer down in a wicked gully. I am going to try that and if no luck I'm going some where else.

They are going to have to do something if they want to compete with the ulmer head that's coming out in a month or two. Looks to be much more durable than the rage. But then again what do i care i probably wont shoot either.

Done

11-30-11 Well my old neighbors stopped by our new place tonight and during the course of the conversation he asks me if i had tore down my blind up on his property and I said no Why? Then he proceeds to tell me that he went up there the other day and the blind i had built is flattened. I just kinda smirked and chuckled. Read the above post or it could be the other beauty of a neighbor up there who got busted for growing pot and likes to pop prescription pills while on stand. WTF Not that i got much into it. Built it out of scrap but it was kinda nice to be able to take the girls out for early season bow hunts. Why the hell cant some people show a little respect. Just re-enforces my belief about not buying anything and leaving it in the woods. On the up side i am now the sole person who has permission to be on the property.

Sounds about right LOL. That's right around the corner from Conwango and where my old boss lives. Lots of Amish in that area. He (my old boss) once told me the Amish are like anyone else, there people. There are good ones, bad ones and indifferent ones. Some just don't like the "English" telling them what to do. Kinda like a lot of guys on here don't like the "government" doing the same .

Thats the way i have always understood it.

The second set of windmills in the state were put up spitting distance from where i grew up while i was in high school. I cant really tell you about game reactions other than turkey because that is all i really hunted at the time. They spooked at first but got accustomed to it. I have shot birds while sitting in the shadow of one. I know the fields directly below those same turbines get heavy deer pressure so much so i would about kill to be able to hunt deer there but due to landowner changes i have lost those spots.

I have heard a passenger vehicle is bad enough. Don't want to even picture a semi. They might keep the price of land up but they also keep it open. Personally i would rather have them keep the land open and in some form of ag production than see it revert back to a woodlot. I also her that horses make damn good designated drivers. I know of a couple stories from Chautauqua county where teenagers go out drinking and when they want to go home they send the horse on its way (auto pilot so to speak). Meanwhile they pass out in the buggy. Only issue being horses cant read and run stop signs - splat. I was told that is what happened a while back on 241 in Conwango at a bad intersection.

I know the one farm i hunt had a 500+ pounder shot by one of the sons about 8-10 years ago. My uncle had to help a buddy in PA get another bear that went over 600 out of the woods during the same time frame. That was out south of Binghamton though. It involved a 4 wheeler, ramp and a large group of guys (two of which had to act as counter weight on the front of the ATV to keep it from flipping backward).

You mean Amish? Mennonite can still drive a vehicle. I think they are supposed to have them. But i know of a couple relay strict sects up in St. Lawrence county that refuse to put them on. Ran into one up near Huvelton came around a corner and there they were middle of the road luckily no one in the other lane. You got to be careful in areas with Amish. Its one thing to take a blind curve and have a deer standing there but a horse and buggy is another story .

Dude that's 20 miles from me. I am starting to think i might want to take the 06. instead of the .257.

Hopefully there will be another one to come for the central NY area and or WNY areas.

My father in-law sent this to me. Gave me a good laugh.

11-24-11 Went out this AM after spending the last 5 days moving and packing. Sat for a couple hours and then did some still hunting. Followed up by another sit in another stand for an hour. Had a truck pull up (thought it was another hunter so i decided to pack it in). On the way out i passed it and it looked like a gas company truck King Ranch Super Duty with PA plates. As i was putting my stuff away in my truck it was leaving as well. Not sure what was up. Left around 11:00 lots of shots all AM but didn't see a glimpse of a deer other than the dead one in a trailer on the road.

11-19-11 Went out for a little while before i had to start the move. Jumped two deer right as i got to my spot. Had a fox or coyote running around a couple minutes after that. First shots were at 6:30. Around 1/4 after seven i heard what i thought to be a buck racking a bush. It got louder and louder till i was scratching my head saying WTF. Then i saw orange. The guy from the neighboring property was dragging a plastic deck chair through the goldenrod. We played 50 questions and he was not exactly happy i was in "his" spot. Got up and left around 1/4 after 8. Didn't see a damn thing, what a surprise.

I think you can pretty much throw out the rut once gun starts. All the pressure really messes things up.

Yup

I have been shot at on multiple occasions. The one thing i have figured out is i can only control what i do. That is why i choose my hunting spots, times, tactics, clothing and people i hunt with very carefully - at least for firearms. That being said i know a guy that took a shot at a doe in a wide open field and missed. However she was at the crest of the field and the slug arched over the top of the hill and hit his hunting partner 350 - 400 yards away at the other end of the field (never broke the skin but when he was taken to the hospital they found the slug in his pocket). Steve I red what happened to you, it sucks and all I can say is don't even begin to tolerate that crap. Show the guy your serious right out of the gate call an ECO straight away next time. I wont even bother with guy like that. I have every ECO for each county i hunt programed into my phone.

I would love to see that video. You have it up anywhere?

I had something similar happen. I sat down turkey hunting one day and a few minutes later looked to my right and up and saw a wood chuck coming down from a tree (8-10) feet up. Saw a couple nice bucks lock up while fall turkey hunting. Hawk landed above me one time Chick a dee landed on my arrow A couple red squirrels raising hell (which ended up decapitated) during bow season, one was only a graze but had a red-tail come in and play cat and mouse with him for a while (the red tail won). Had another red squirrel raising hell during turkey and i got to the point where i figured nothing was going to come in with this racquet. Pulled up on him and could not see him through the scope (directly above me) so i looked down the side of the barrel and gave him a load of #4 turkey shot, he landed about 5 feet from me (what was left of him). I packed up shop and headed out and as i was crawling under the fence the flock of turkeys showed up crossing the field (ended up taking two hens with one shot). Coon made it about a foot from my feet while turkey hunting (pitch black out) before he realized something wasn't quite right. Probably the coolest thing i have ever experienced was my first ever goose hunt. A buddy and myself layed out in a combined corn field no blinds (just covered with corn stubble) and a dozen crappy carry lite shells (neither one of us really had a clue what we were doing. No birds all afternoon and then my buddy spots a flock of about 50 way off over the top of the hedge row headed our way. Well 50 went to 100 to 200 to 400 plus and as soon as the first birds cleared the hedge they locked up and started dropping. Before we knew it we had a cloud of geese flying and landing all around us. I sit and sit waiting for my buddy to give the signal but he was aw-struck and never says a peep. One of the last birds to come down comes in from my right and i close my eyes because i think i am on the X. I felt the wind as he passed over and landed about 5-6 feet to my left. He starts walking toward me and before long i feel pressure on my left knee. He knew something wasn't right and decided to move in a hurry. Finally we get our act together and jump up swing on the birds and unload six shells between us and never cut a dam feather. Nothing outrageous but never the less cool encounters.That's the type of stuff that keeps me going back even if i don't end up bringing home game.