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BOO FREAKIN' HOO. GET OVER IT. IT'S A PUBLIC FORUM. How's that grab ya'? Seriously, you explained that you had scent out and it was left at that. Why all of the sudden are guys trying to nit-pick and get defensive?

Fox are predators. They do kill to eat, but so do many other animals. I hunt fox for the pelts and that's my prerogative.I don't take huge amounts. Many trappers take dozens every season and yet the population stays sufficient. Like I mentioned earlier, they will recover naturally. I don't think taking a few fox is gonna cause great turmoil in nature. Let the hawks have some mice too! LOL

read up on this article about fox with mange(scabies) http://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/2005/03/sarcoptic-mange.html like coyotes, fox will breed more to compensate for a decline in the population and without regulated population management mange will run rampant.

I use a .22mag for fox if that's any indication. If you have a shotgun, load it with a turkey wad or high brass #5 shot. A .308 would make a mess in my opinion. I've been hearing of .204 rugers doing too much damage

Hounds- nice grays there! Not that the rat and mink pelts won't look nice when put up too!

and like Biz-R-Oworld mentioned, even when baiting you should try to be scent free. Wear rubber boots if you think they might cross your trail. Their nose is every bit as good as a deers, if not better.

You can, but that's inviting them to get downwind of you. Just like any time you call, you should start off calling softly and increase volume in increments. This way, nearby coyotes will be less likely to pinpoint your location and sometimes calling too loudly can spook predators that are close by. I don't call over bait, if you choose to I would suggest using coyote vocalizations. This way they will come in with more of a territorial response rather than hunting wounded prey like they will when they hear distress sounds

Rare enough to where I've only seen 1 in 30 years

I see from the FB page that you've had some buyers. I missed the shooter package sale, but I'll be sure to watch the page more. It's almost time to give the predators the business!

Brush hog now. Plow when the ground thaws in the spring, then disc and drag it in late spring.

Here's me with a Susky Musky that I caught in Tioga Co. You might recognize the pic as it has been my avatar on huntingNY since I joined.

Oh yeah! My brother showed me an article back a few months ago that told how there is now a breeding population of full strain muskies. Up until then, there was only known to be tiger muskies which are a hybrid between northern pike and true muskies. They have been stocking the river for years because tigers don't reproduce as they are usually sterile. I'll try to find and post the article. We chase them from spring to fall with BIG spinners, stickbaits, or sucker minnows. Dawn and dusk are good times, but if you're serious like we are you'll try it by the light of the moon! Conventional wisdom has always told that they won't hit after dark. That couldn't be farther from the truth, it's comparable to the last hour in the bow stand on November 5th!

bryabbio- he has another thread with more details. It's titled hunting with my son in Sullivan NY. In that thread he named Eldred as the specific town in Sullivan Co. Alex Georgijevski- Congrats to your son and to you for guiding him.

That's cool. I usually don't venture much past Tioga, but Chemung seems decent. Some good fishin' on the Susquehanna for cats, walleye, smallmouth, and always a possibility to hook a Musky! Being a CNY history buff, I've done quite alot of research on archaeology,the Iroquois indians and the battle of Newtown. I have a nice collection of artifacts that I've found. If you're into that stuff you might like to check out the SRAC(Susquehanna River Archaeology Center) in Waverly. It's an awesome place with some of the coolest artifacts.

Yes, "baitcicles" have been gaining in popularity over the last few years. Beaver carcasses have been used alot for them so let any local trappers know that you will take the carcasses. Another way to release the baitcicle from the bucket is to fill another bucket with warm water, then put the bait bucket in the warm water bucket. Once it's released, you can then put a hockey puck or a block of wood underneath the ice to prevent it from refreezing. I think Brian Downs, a northeast predator hunter first came up with the "baitcicle". He has a radio show too called Foxpro's predator talkcast. You can follow this link and listen to past shows http://forum.gofoxpro.com/fp_forums/forumdisplay.php?f=56

You could save a ribcage to replenish the bait. Any food will work. Fruit, tablescraps, pasta, dry dog food, Etc. As long as you can remain quiet in the blind, it should work. What weapon will you be using?

I like to still hunt the perimeters of bedding zones or get elevated and watch goldenrod fields that border food sources. A scent drag can work too.

I've done alot of baiting on yotes. Yes you should tie them off or you will find the carcass torn to shreds inside the nearest thicket/brush. I like to set my baitpile close to thick cover, this will let them feel comfortable. Keep the wind in your favor. They will sometimes scent check a baitpile before coming in, so if the downwind side is inside some cover then that is good. They will be hitting the bait mostly after dark, so you should set the bait so there is a backdrop of snow so you can see them approaching without shining a light. I usually wait a few days or at least til they start hitting it before I hunt. Watch the bait on cold nights. They'll need to eat more when it's cold so if they've found your free meal, they will visit. I never pass a chance to yote hunt on a bitter cold night and if I'm just watching bait I get inside my sleeping bag. Good luck out there. I'll be setting my pile up tomorrow.

yeah that's cool, but I really enjoy the small click when I take my safety off!

I passed one 2 years ago in Delaware Co. while fall turkey hunting. I thought about trying to wing it with the outside part of my shot pattern, but didn't want to chance mangling it. Good luck

I did say it. Did you not read it? After all, you did quote the exact statement. Then just a few minutes later I said to myself," ya know what, lets not jump to conclusions." Then I posted the follow up comment . Do you comprehend? Let's bring the whole story in here and not just pick out one comment. I posted it down below so you can take your time reading. Hey while were on the subject, the OP said he put some scent on that stick. You know, the stick that wasn't present until 11/06 when the rest of the pics were taken on 10/23. I noticed right off the bat, but I didn't mention it because like before, I gave him the benefit of the doubt when I stated that maybe he had put scent out. Even after my comments, the OP didn't get butthurt because he's probably his own man who doesn't need someone to fight his battles.. Just sayin' As far as you disagreeing with my opinion, boo hoo get over it. and that my friend, you may publicly suck upon! lol

I'm all set on tags, but I hope your season gets better.

Yes the Doe Management Permits(DMP's) are for specific Wildlife Management Units(WMU'S). It is a $10 application fee. They are given out on the spot with your license if you were chosen to receive them by the computer in the lottery style process. You should have been asked to pick 2 WMU's. Well actually, when exactly did you purchase your license? The deadline for DMP's was October 1st. You may have just received a leftover. What WMU is listed on your tag?

A little scrutiny never killed anyone. Not sure what turned you off, but pointing out observations is half of the deal. Not every thread is gonna end in " oh awesome deer, good luck harvesting it"! The "new breed" of hunters come seeking advice and we try our best to help, but we'll also do our best to make honest hunters outta them!

Good harvest! btw, Mr.B sounds like a true gentleman. Take care out there.