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http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/28605.html As far as the new regs on that one, looks like for this season you can still use last years tag. But, that's a shady area as well. They said the new doe only regs would be next year, than blammo, it's for this year.

The bad thing is when you click a link that you "think" will get you on the right track, you end up back where you started. Again I appreciate the help. Thank you.

I will check that out. Thank you. The no sun and only being able to plant small 20 foot areas is an issue. Never hurts to ask people who know about things.

HA! I never fount that wdswtr. I did look a lot last season, appreciate that link very much. Thank you.

I was talking to my buddy about food plots last weekend at camp. I wasn't going to even bring this up in here. I asked if his dad would have an issue with me planting some things here and there. His dad was hiking the High Peaks with a few friends Sunday, so I didn't get to ask. Just got a text asking what I meant. I did my best to explain, but I am not sure how to really explain the whole thing. I can't remove trees or rip up the ground. The area is a huge canopy cover, very little full sun spots, there are streams, a small swamp, and even a small pond you cannot see in an aerial view. Most of the ground has at least a 5" layer of old pine needles. I would have to plant in the woods in small patches here and there without disturbing the natural terrain. Is there anything I can plant there that will work and be non-invasive and grow in the shade? Go easy on me here people, I have never done this before. I asked, and was returned a question I can't answer because I have never done a food plot before.

LOL! Sorry. I guess it is a bit vague. I know I could use last years tag for either sex during the early season. Last year for that too I think. The regular bow season is what I meant. I hunt in 5J.

Never used them for turkey. Never thought about using decoys or an electronic call for deer either. But hey, if it works go for it!

That part I know and they make it clear. I am talking the early season. That's where it gets a little gray. I cannot find anything in writing stating I can use my early season tag in the NZ with the bow for anterless. The area is buck only, except ML ( during the ML season ). Even the land owner who hunts once in a blue moon said bow was the same as gun even in the early season, no anterless. Trust me when I say there is no ill or argumentative intent here.

I was thinking about this one. I am not sure if they are technically gun mishaps, but have had a few odd things happen. When I was about 16 I got picked for an evening hunt. We drove the hour and a half to the location, and I forgot my slugs. Didn't want to leave my shot gun in the truck so I carried an empty gun around the woods on a few one man drives to my partner. The plan was an evening sit. Early 20's I again drove about 2 hours to an area, went in and sat down, 4 pt walked out and when I brought the .270 to my shoulder the cross hairs in the scope were at angle. Was fine when I checked at home, but the drive loosened the screws because I forgot the Loc-Tite when I mounted the scope. It never loosened while sighting it in. Never did that again.

I have never encountered them while actually hunting. If I ever do and they get to testy I will call authorities. What else can you do? Not like you can stand there arguing with someone when you are holding a lethal weapon. That could go south really fast. The only time I ever thought I might was in 4J on public land. Area is very suburban and gets hikers, bird watchers, people walking dogs, you name it.

Rifle only this year, but last year I couldn't locate in the regs where it said I could use the early season tag on a doe. I will have to sift through it some more. Then again, by next year, that might be all that's allowed.

Try this!

I have never actually dropped a gun or bow. Arrows and ammo, yep.

I think grow is talking about the 2 color pics. Same day, but don't look like the same buck. One has a thicker rack diameter then the other. Also a few more inches.

No one ever talks about the issues in this area. Most areas, are not DMP areas. So unless you hunt with a ML you can't shoot a doe in most WMU's. What makes the ML so special up north? If I can use a ML why not a bow ( especially! ) ? Or a shotgun or rifle? Why no DMP's in about 80% of the NZ? Do you only care about the SZ because that's where you live or hunt? I am very curious now that the new laws went into effect. People are all ready for war in the south, but the NZ is either not taken seriously, or too many people just don't care about the NZ.

We all dream of that monster B&C buck! "A chilly morning. You are in your prime spot and hopeful. Wind is perfect. Around 8:30, the biggest buck you have ever seen just materializes ( as they like to do ) at 20 yards. Your heart rate doubles as you watch for an opening to make your draw. There it is! You draw and set that pin in the perfect spot! After 30 seconds ( feels like 2 hours ) you have the perfect shot! RELEASE! You hear that mild 'thud' and know after seeing where your arrow hit you made a great shot. You try to listen over the sound of your heart for that buck to stop crashing through the woods! The woods become silent very quick. You wait and your mind races with visions of walking up in that buck dead after running only about 50 yards. You climb down and start tracking. Sure enough, about 35 yards there he is! SCORE! You get your measurement and bingo, you just made the books!" I don't care if you hunt with a bow only, bow and gun season, or w/e! That's the dream! We all have it. I do. How many honestly don't have that dream? Truth is, yes, I think at least 90% want that trophy. The DEC mucked up! Deal with it! Some of the talk on this thread is just insane! I hope most of it just that, talk from heated minds and just venting. Here's something maybe you don't realize. If you get all frikin' crazy and don't follow the laws, what point are you really proving? All you will succeed in doing is making the 'man' pissed off and possibly hurt the whole deer hunting community. Do what ever the hell you want! Just remember, you are not the only hunter in NYS! So doing stupid things will effect more then just you.

I agree. If they come back on their own that's one thing. But to put them here and see what happens isn't great idea. Or cougars.

No real recipe. Pickling salt ( 1/5 of what is called for ), pickling spice, pickle crisp, fresh minced garlic, fresh dill sprigs, and sometimes she will add slices of hot peppers, or sweet red peppers, or pimento. As for the bread and butter pickles, she looked up a recipe and bought all the stuff and made it herself. The hot peppers I make is the same as the garlic dills, but I leave out the dill sprigs and ass more garlic. The beans, she said the same as the bread and butter and one jar of the hot dill. Last year I did up some pickled garlic cauliflower and pickled garlic. The cauliflower was good, but man did it stink when you opened a jar. LOL.

It doesn't look like the same buck. The horns on the 2nd pic look thicker, but, I am probably wrong.

Because these are some seriously bad chemicals and metals to have in that river: . This is a shame. I feel bad for the people and wildlife in that area.

That last guy looked he made a mess in his pants. His expression was priceless, you know that tore his shoulder up.

Well, the lil lady made some bread and butter pickles this past weekend. I was off in the woods and she found out pretty fast that those are a process. LOL. I didn't get to even try them as I was gone and she had just finished up on Sunday when I got home. So you have to give them a little time to rest. I am not a big fan, but I really want to try them to see how she did. OH! She did a small jar of beans too.

Checked out the Rio Bismuth this past weekend. Shot a few 2 3/4" #5's. I like 'em. Sot 3 rounds at about 20 yds and was happy with the performance.

Welcome aboard.

Are you referring to the tags Orion? The either sex tags for bow and ML?