G-Man

Turkey with a bow is the hardest thing to do gobbler getter heads are huge and about 145 grain if I remember right. They are meant to sever the head and neck of a turkey. The old way of a large fixed broadhead 1.5 in with a stopper behind it are meat for spine shots and pinning the wings at wing butts hopefully getting the vitals.. Most bow shots ar birds simply pass thru and the bird Flys away ( blood trail is non existant) some add a tracking string to try and help.. personally the gobbler getter head and close shot severing the neck is only way to go..

I have a .22 over a 20 nice gun

The weight of a gun is usually built to reduce recoil , when it's a feather weight your removing weight which make recoil higher Ithaca 37s were light guns that packed a good punch.. still not close to 835 with 3.5 in turkey load..

This is scientifically proven so if you shoot an 835 with 3.5 in you can handle anything.....

Yes and it still kicks worse than any gun.

A mossberg 835 with a 3.5 in turkey load has almost 10 lbs more ft lbs of energy than a 416 rigby.Rigby.. it has enough energy to break your collarbone nothing short of extreme large caliber rifles 50 cal big, 20mm rounds kicks harder.. most guns are made heavier to contain the energy transfered to your shoulder , the 12 ga is in fact a light gun shooting a 10 ga round thru it... that's why guys complain about a 3.5 in shell...

If he wants to spend money and like how a gunnlooks and feels the browning bps is a great all around shotgun, if he wants range and tight patterns in a heavier platform the mosberg 835 is by far the best turkey goose gun , that you don't mind knocking around and picking up out of the mud.

Birds have been gobbling on wind free mornings on top of the hill, behind the house and across the street. Groups are breaking up . Cameras show 7adult birds , 1 jake and 8 hens so far.. set out another 12 camera in known strutting zones...

Very few pellets in a 410, it's about pattern and density for penetration. Both would be lacking from a 410. It's not squirrel or rarity hunting . As for shooting with a crossbow , vital on a turkey are very small amd not where you think they are. Really study shot placement for an broadhead , most turkey archery hunters use very large broadhead ( 4 to 6 in ) and try for a neck shot at very close range, a bird stopper behind a normal broadhead may not be enough to keep it in the bird with a crossbow and the spine / heart lungs is tiny target to begin with.. inthink you may have bird simply up and fly after a complete pass thru.... As for it being dry cardboard.. your cooking it wrong.. I'd take wild turkey over venison for dinner any day

I prefer roosting and woods hunting, I have fields but am usually out-of woods and back home by 8 am.. I rarely stay out to noon. I see no reason to chase birds around and educate them of have them leave the area. Minimizing pressure I believe keeps them in same roost area for weeks at a time.. gave up the decoy and field game years ago as I don't care if I see a bird across field coming in ,I prefer to have them pop their head up in range inthe woods for their 1st look for the caller... Where do you like to hunt toms and why?

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I run cam for turkey, nit cell cams but 12 cameras out at the moment. Using to locate pre hunt birds or even roosting birds night before I would not have issue with. Getting a photonif a bird and them trying to stalk or approach it would be a no no for me. I like seeing what around the area , now I know I have 7adult 2 jakes and 8 hens out and about. Ibhave had same property for decades and roost areas are always roost areas. Strutting areas are great spots for cameras. Cell service is spotty by me to begin with so I won't buy a cell cam plus running 26cams I can't imagine the cost let alone the constant incoming pic alerts... If your having issue with live time updates I under stand some cell cams have features for specific time batch upload perhaps set it so it's not during legal hunting hours ( after lunch would be fun to see what you missed.) Using information you get to set up for next days hunt or similar weather hunt a week from photos is just Using a good scouting tool... Having it tell you here it is come get it right now isn't appropriate for myself personally

The water you drink out of tap has chlorine in it... how are you feeling?

There is a white pine stand in western mills on the allegany River in a campground that is impressive 4ft plus diameter pine forest.

Always wonder what happened... at least you found it.

Just had friend pick up trees in Niagara County near Erie county border and he said trees were same quality he picked up half a dozen.

Honestly cash wise, 700 to 1000 a year for seed and trees, fertilizer.. this year will be few hundred more for gas , plowing ,planting spraying. And trail maintenance.. Add in stand replacement, fixing cables straps.. yep its expensive. But taking 18 to 20 deer a year is only possible with management of property.. labor hours doing all the plot work and tsi would be int the thousands... deer hunting and prep is truly 24/7 365....

A hay field usually has clover, alfalfa, not to mention strawberries, dandelion, and many other broadleaf forbes deer love. Simply adding fertilizer will make what it there more nutritious and palatable. Bonus the variety will draw all year.. and you can frost seed various clovers into it as well.

These trees are old enough to try and produce fruit this year but I'll knock the blossoms off so they put energy into roots, I expect most will produce next year for sure. These are by far biggest trees I've seen at that price and are 2 to 3x the size of one's I planted 3 years ago.

Got 11 in the ground and fenced...

Turkey are much more difficult to sneak up on..

Imo ears they can hear and keep trac of every sound in a 1/4 mile àrea for an adult deer

If food sources remain the same as last year yes, but something always changes.. it's always best to scout now and spring and learn trees that will bear hard or soft mast in fall so you know where to concentrate your efforts, there is no reason to sit Inna Grove of oaks if there are no acorns. A pair of 10x binoculars are a huge help whole everyone is looking on ground for tracks ( most of time you spooked the deer so freshest are usually escape route... its better to be looking in trees for their food.

Food source has changed, winter groups breaking up, deer looking for different mineral sources as antlers are growing and as are fetuses.