Dave

Has me worried too. Was up over the weekend and the apples are in full bloom. Never saw so many apple trees with so many buds. I have 6 trees i planted about 6 years ago and have only been getting a few apples from some trees and some none. This year they are in full bloom and all trees are laden with buds. Looks like Friday it gets down to 32, hope its revised to be a tad warmer.

If we accept and support everthing blindly we would have had fracking. Its that we didn't support it and the people fought for change. We fought for the environment against the interest of the Oil and Gas Industry. Who were dangeling carrots in hopes we would let them destroy our land and environment for money. That is a moral and ethical victory we should be proud of, I am.

By on January 20, 2015. Time posted: 9:33 amUncategorized Voters were pleased Gov. Andrew Cuomo has decided to ban hydraulic fracturing, a poll today found. Voters, even in upstate, supported the fracking ban Cuomo’s aides said they would adopt Dec. 17. The ban ended six years of deliberations by state officials on whether to process with the controversial drilling technique. By a 57 percent to 23 percent margin said they supported the fracking ban. Even in upstate, where fracking would have occurred, particularly in the Southern Tier, voters supported the ban 57 percent to 33 percent, the Siena College poll found. The poll didn’t break out regions of upstate. “Between 55 and 61 percent of voters from every region of the state support the ban,” Siena pollster Steve Greenberg said in a statement. “While about one-third of upstaters oppose the decision to ban fracking, about half that number of downstaters oppose the ban. Two-thirds of Democrats support the ban, as do a strong majority of independents and a plurality of Republicans.”

What a bunch of BULL. I guess you haven't been keeping up on what is happening in Pennsylvania which you like to compare us to. Chesapeake Energy has been low balling royaly checks. People who were getting thousands of dollars are now only getting a fraction of that amount. It always looks like a good deal till it isn't. What aboit all the hunting clubs that have leased their land, what do you think they are doing with the money? Most live out of the area and spend their money where they live. What does that create for the area zero.

It seems by your anger concerning banning Fracking you must have lost a lot of money with the ban in place. I also find it crazy to think the oil and gas companies should police themselves. Pennsylvania is now looking at regulating. the gas industry, only took them 8 years. Day late and dollar short. But I thank Pennsylvania for letting the gas industry regulate themselves and by doing so gave NY the information to ban fracking.

In months and years that followed, the Pennsylvania state Department of Environmental Protection found that methane was seeping from nearby gas wells drilled by Cabot Oil and Gas into water wells in the area where Fiorentino lived. Cabot responded that methane comes from the ground and factors other than drilling can bring it into contact with water supplies. Cabot denied that its operations caused the problem, and at one point accused the DEP of fabricating the story. The events in Dimock highlighted a battle over whether fracking was good or bad. At the heart of it was the issue of trust, and who could be believed — industry, government, or neither. The industry, at the time, was standing by a claim that fracking had not contaminated a single water well throughout its history. This motivated journalists, critics, and activists who sensed a bending of the facts and possibly a cover up. After Fiorentino's well exploded, Walter Hang, head of an environmental research firm in Ithaca, began searching data bases from the DEC to see if he could find records of similar incidents in New York State. He uncovered 270 files documenting waste-water spills, well contamination, explosions, methane migration and ecological damage related to gas production in the state since 1979. Those findings were the subject of an article in this newspaper on Nov. 8, 2009. Continuing his research in 2010, Hang uncovered documents that showed William T. Boria, a water resources specialist at the Chautauqua County Health Department, reported his agency had received more than 140 complaints related to water pollution or gas migration associated with nearby drilling operations. In a 2004 memo summarizing the issue, Boria stated: "Those complaints that were recorded are probably just a fraction of the actual problems that occurred." County health officials tabulated information on 53 of the cases from 1983 to 2008 on a spreadsheet, including one where a home was evacuated after the water well exploded.

I guess you don't know what a non disclosure agreement is for to hide the truth about any contamination you sustain while they are fracking on your property. There have been cases of water contamination in Pennsylvania guess you just mised that one. The BP oil spill didn't happen over night but it did happen only problem for BP was they couldn't hide that one through non disclosure.

I remember a quote from years ago if goes something like this. "I capitalist will sell you the rope to hang him with" Funny where money is concerned there is also denial of the facts, because its the money they want and no fact to the contraty will change their minds. Money justifies all !!!!!!

Doc, I don't see that this is much of a scientific issue as one of common sense. You pour hundreds of thousands of pounds of chemicals down a well hole under extreme pressure to break up the shale to release the gas. Chemicals that can cause cancer , create a stream of contaminated backwash . That we don't have the capacity to recycle back to the environment can't be good for anybody or anything on this palnet. It's not as complicated as you would have us believe. Nothing about this process is safe, nothing.

One thing I forgot to mention, If fracking is so safe why do the Oil and Gas companies make every landowner sign a non disclosure statement? In many environmental incidents the non disclosure statement prevents the information from going public. So the oil and gas companies can claim no documented incidents of water contamination have been reported. Does that mean it never happened?? I think not.

I gusee it's alot like the disclosure on your prescription drug bottle. May cause death, liver damage, brain damage heart attack etc. Whats the difference? Everyhing MAY... It doesn't say will but it may.

With regard to the other states benefiting from the fracking boom at the expense of health and welfare of their residents. These states lack any real meaningful regulations on fracking and usually let the regulations they have come from the oil and gas industry. I believe this was good for NY because after 8 years moritorium on fracking we were able to see what was happening in other states. And from what the studies have shown it gave us the information we needed to ban fracking in NY. From air pollution, contaminated wells, earthquakes ,destruction of a rural way of life. With many quality of lfe issues not to forget the short changing of land owners on lease payments and reducing of royalties. Some people have cursed the day they got in bed with these gas companies.

I guess you have forgotten about the asbestos industry, tobacco industry and Love Canal. How the indusrty told the public they were all safe. How did that work out for everyone? Cancer, birth defects all the time they were swearing they were safe, the problem is there were no eco-facists around back then to keep them honest. If there is a depression up state why are land prices so high and no one is moving out. Just who owns the land, who will make all the royalties and signing bonuses not the average person living up state. But the large land owners and not the guy who has one or two acres. Its funny the people for anti-fracking have no financial gain but they used their personal time and money to organize to stop fracking. So they are the enemy, but the large landowners most who don't live on the land who will make big bucks and destroy the land and environment are some how the good guys. Up state has had hard time before fracking, and fracking isn't the magic bullet to fix things.

Saw a flock of about 6 on Saturday in the field across form the house. In Long Eddy area

Went to dinner last nite in Roscoe 4W it was snowing on and off all day. Took 25 minutes to get to Roscoe because roads were full of snow and ice. While driving home roads still covered couldn't drive up to house ,not so much snow but it turned to ice under snow. This morning cold and warmed up to 50's when we left, snow was melting fast hope this is the last of it.

In Long Eddy there was alot of brown in the fields and some snow dirfts around. But the elevated areas all have snow a few inches. Snowed last night now all of fields and open areas covered.

Done

No not at all , on offense taken.

I know the Python was the top of the line when I bought the Trooper III. But it's still a great gun and will last for ever, not really trying to sell it . Was my first gun.

Joe, the fracking in the Dakato's has had its share of problems 1. First there is no infastructure in place to carry the gas and oil out of the Dakotas. NO PIPILINES 2. The oil is moved by train and in the past couple of months these trains have delailed causing mass damage in Canada and in the US. 3. The Methane that is encountered in the fracking is being burned off 24-7. again no pilelines to capture the gas. I thought the purpose was to capture the gas and oil.

Grow's, i am not sure that is correct last year I was inquiring about a piece of land in the Callacoon area and the realestate agent lold me that people were afraid to buy because of the potential of Hydro Fracking in the area. And it was hurting their business, so if that's true then maybe the value will increase. Makes perfect sense to me, who would want to buy a piece of land and one day here comes the fracking company to drill a well 500 ft from your house. Just MHO on the value of land in Southern zone.

I have a colt Trooper with 6" barrel in 357 mag. In mint condition. Bought it about 35 yrs ago hardly ever fired. Can't remember last time it was fired. What do you guys thinkits worth?

Well you did much better than we did. We are in the part of 4W close to the Sullivan County border about 1/4 mile from my house near the Eminence rd Winery. Shot a doe last weekend of the season. Only saw two spikes the whole gun season. One of our members shot a 5pt and thats it. This is the third year of antler restriction and haven't reaped the benefits yet. But did see more does this past season than usual. Hopefuly we have a warm March to prevent winter kill, crossing my fingers.

Thats why it warms you twice. Love working with wood, just another connection to nature.

I gather all my wood in the end of March to early April. We have mostly ash, beech, maple and cherry, I look for blowdowns and cut them up . Like to cut the ones closest to the logging roads first. Bring them back to the house and have a log splitter so it makes it alot easier. Most wood is let dry for a year before we burn it. The best part of this is its all free wood, just have to supply my time and energy. Which I enjoy doing, nothing like a good fire and a glass of wine on a cold nite.