Meat First Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Two big macs three biggie fries and a small diet coke please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyantler Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Two big macs three biggie fries and a small diet coke please or three small diet cokes....lol... that goofball Bloomberg thinks that banning jumbo drinks will stop soda lovers from drinking the same amount anyway... liberalism is DEFINITELY a disease that affects rational thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Two big macs three biggie fries and a small diet coke please EXACTLY MY POINT!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erussell Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 (edited) I can never understand why they want to Ban and tax cigs but they want to legalize harder drugs? Oh wait maybe because their base is a bunch of pot smoking, brain dead, lazy azz, jobless, occupy wallstreet, socialist, hippies? Much easier to control if your brain is fried. Edited September 22, 2012 by erussell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 NO! have you seen any occupy videos? You can't tell me that any of those "kids" smoke pot, are jobless or are brain dead hippies. I know its off topic but go to youtube and punch in Sean Hannity interviews occupy leader. This guy is the poster child for brain dead parasites and he's one of the leaders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveB Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Obviously need a fork tax - look what they did to Rosie O! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share Posted September 23, 2012 I was on a flight from Miami to JFK once. I ended up getting a seat next to a kid (looks to be 12-14 years old) that was grossly overweight. I was literally pressed up against the window and his thigh was up in my seat. I kept thinking to myself, I could have sworn I paid for a full seat so how come I am only getting half a seat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 About cigarettes? Thats a whole other can of worms.. lets stick to one ridiculous liberal "feel good" tax before moving on to another. Plus.. that is one that we can no longer do much about and that I am also against... I'm okay with restrictions on smoking in public places, but defintiely not on taxing tobacco products. I love how liberals are okay with legalizing pot smoking but want to ban cigarettes... makes absolutely no sense. Maybe you want it legalized so that you can tax that too. The question that always pops into my mind is, Why don't they simply declare tobacco a controlled substance and ban it which would be the honest way of conducting business? Instead they use the tax system to perform their behavior modification activities. When they had all their successes using the tax code for behavior modification, I knew it would be something that they would fall in love with and use freely in all kinds of situations. And all the US citizens cheered the methods and gladly accepted this corruption of the tax system. They loved it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyantler Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 The question that always pops into my mind is, Why don't they simply declare tobacco a controlled substance and ban it which would be the honest way of conducting business? Instead they use the tax system to perform their behavior modification activities. When they had all their successes using the tax code for behavior modification, I knew it would be something that they would fall in love with and use freely in all kinds of situations. And all the US citizens cheered the methods and gladly accepted this corruption of the tax system. They loved it! Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyantler Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Obviously need a fork tax - look what they did to Rosie O! I thought she just ate big turkey legs with her hands? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveB Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Tax turkey legs and forks! Got to get a handle on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyantler Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I think virgil gave up on us... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Did King Bloomberg make a law (dictate) how many packs of cigarettes a person can buy at one time??? Virgil!! help me out here. Answer must be "HELL YEAH!!" But honestly , Im not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erussell Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 The question that always pops into my mind is, Why don't they simply declare tobacco a controlled substance and ban it which would be the honest way of conducting business? Instead they use the tax system to perform their behavior modification activities. When they had all their successes using the tax code for behavior modification, I knew it would be something that they would fall in love with and use freely in all kinds of situations. And all the US citizens cheered the methods and gladly accepted this corruption of the tax system. They loved it! Same thing with Alchohol, they keep bitchen about people getting DWIs why not ban it again? Because they make to much money on it. They could give a sh---t if you die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erussell Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Did King Bloomberg make a law (dictate) how many packs of cigarettes a person can buy at one time??? Virgil!! help me out here. Answer must be "HELL YEAH!!" But honestly , Im not sure. They would never make cigs illegal they make to much money on it now that it's $10 a pack. And I bet not one red cent of it go's to offset medical expenses like they first said they were going to use it for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virgil Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I think virgil gave up on us... A long time ago. Just kidding....sort of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virgil Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 The reason that tobacco hasn't been banned is probably becasue the tobacco industry has a very powerful lobby. Since they can't make the product illegal, they tax the hell out of it in order to reduce consumption and to discourage new users. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Yeah but if they can tax the hell out of it, can't they restrict the amount you buy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virgil Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Yeah but if they can tax the hell out of it, can't they restrict the amount you buy? Not by legislating a limit- but by taxing the hell out it, they can achieve the desired effect, which is that people will buy less cigarettes, more people will decide to quit, and there will be a decrease in the number of new smokers. Plus, the tax revenue generated can offset the healthcare costs associated with smoking as well as fund the educational/advertising programs designed to reduce the number of smokers and encourage/assist people to quit smoking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 If that is really the desire., Why not make the tax , say, $100 a pack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveB Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Yeah but if they can tax the hell out of it, can't they restrict the amount you buy? Not by legislating a limit- but by taxing the hell out it, they can achieve the desired effect, which is that people will buy less cigarettes, more people will decide to quit, and there will be a decrease in the number of new smokers. Plus, the tax revenue generated can offset the healthcare costs associated with smoking as well as fund the educational/advertising programs designed to reduce the number of smokers and encourage/assist people to quit smoking. Does the tax go in a separate fund for healthcare and education? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virgil Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I could be wrong about this, but as far as i understand, there are both federal and state taxes. I believe the federal tax money is specifically earmarked for certain programs. As far as the state tax money, i believe it's done differently in each state with some doing a better job than others of actually directing that money where it's supposed to versus dumping it into the state's general fund. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 When I was smoking last January the cost of a pack down south was less than $4 a pack while NY was just short of $10 so NY has to have at least $6 a pack coming in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virgil Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 When I was smoking last January the cost of a pack down south was less than $4 a pack while NY was just short of $10 so NY has to have at least $6 a pack coming in. Just found a link- NY State tax $4.35/pack, Florida $1.34. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 When I was smoking last January the cost of a pack down south was less than $4 a pack while NY was just short of $10 so NY has to have at least $6 a pack coming in. Just found a link- NY State tax $4.35/pack, Florida $1.34. That is just the sin tax. notthe sales tax too...must be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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