dave6x6 Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Gosh geno, i sure am pulling for you but i have to admit the most disturbing part of the story is the lack of blood on the shaft. Just can't see how an arrow can zip through the lungs and not leave blood especially on the fletches.. Hope i'm wrong and you post some happy pics in the morning.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowshotmuzzleloader Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Gosh geno, i sure am pulling for you but i have to admit the most disturbing part of the story is the lack of blood on the shaft. Just can't see how an arrow can zip through the lungs and not leave blood especially on the fletches.. Hope i'm wrong and you post some happy pics in the morning.. Even a bad gut shot leaves clear liquid, one smell and you know its time to go to bed ,and go out in A.M. Which still has hair and a trace of blood.. Good Luck though just doesnt sound right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno C Posted October 14, 2012 Author Share Posted October 14, 2012 "Sethro02' when you test the rage titanium extreme turn the light down a little,when the stainless steel blades deploy and hit the titanium ferrule you see a very bright spark.pretty cool lighting up a deer in low light with them." Geno your shooting the Rage Extremes I believe? I found this on Archery Talk.....probably explains the sparks wow i would not have thought that, yes i am... very interesting. thank you for the post Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno C Posted October 14, 2012 Author Share Posted October 14, 2012 Not to be a bummer never killed a deer with no blood on arrow,, They are meant to cause massive bleading as you know,, Hair not good. High back strap, still blood on arrow ..Sounds like a miss confusion to me ,, 100% dark deer hair all in my broad head... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowshotmuzzleloader Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 wow i would not have thought that, yes i am... very interesting. thank you for the post Rich Sounds like ,Low brisket shot.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno C Posted October 14, 2012 Author Share Posted October 14, 2012 after seeing Rich's post, maybe what i am thinking is i barley nicked him thus deploying the rage and snagging hair on the way, they spark maybe from hitting the log and it happened so quick that it appeared to spark when it hit the deer? the only factor is the repetitive gargling... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno C Posted October 14, 2012 Author Share Posted October 14, 2012 Sounds like ,Low brisket shot.. shot was def high if anything. the spark occurred behind the deer which made it look right above the deer from my angle. if it hit low the spark would have been behind the deer and i may not have even seen it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichZ7 Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 wow i would not have thought that, yes i am... very interesting. thank you for the post Rich No problem Geno.....hope it solves part of your dilemma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowshotmuzzleloader Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Sounds like ,Low brisket shot.. I not trying to bring you down hope you go out in AM and retrive your prize .. Shot alot of deer ,, one tough mother they are , there will to live, in dire conditions and wounds still amaze me...No blood worries me ,, never shot any deer with not something as far as blood on arrow , Thats all.. Good Luck try to get some sleep.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno C Posted October 14, 2012 Author Share Posted October 14, 2012 I not trying to bring you down hope you go out in AM and retrive your prize .. Shot alot of deer ,, one tough mother they are , there will to live, in dire conditions and wounds still amaze me...No blood worries me ,, never shot any deer with not something as far as blood on arrow , Thats all.. Good Luck try to get some sleep.. oh no i did not think that at all, no worries... i appreciate all the input, the lack of blood on the arrow concerns me as well and makes me think i just nipped him. the sounds i heard i can not put my finger on. he was standing for minutes on this one trail at a stand still, if there is no blood anywhere on there he was not hit then, he was just nipped. he had plenty of time to bleed pretty well if he was hit so it should not be hard at all to figure out. ill update tomorrow, off to a sleepless night and a early start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Hillbilly Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Geno I think you hit your deer harder than you think. The idea that the deployed blades striking the ferrel makes some sense. But, to see something like that would indicate to me anyway some pretty low light conditions so I bet when you go back in the morning you find much more sign in the light of day. The deer standing around with tail down is also puzzling. A deer that big would have headed for high timber at the first sign of trouble in my mind. The gargling noise sounds like lung filling up with blood. You might have caught him high in the lungs. Good luck in the morning. We will all be pulling for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four Season Whitetail's Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Hope im wrong here but i believe the noise you heard was of him in pain!! Trust me after raising deer for 17 years i know deer do feel pain and react to it with noise and body movements. I believe you hit him high either through the loin or just enough across the back to cut him. Good Luck either way but i think that buck will live to see another day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan92 Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 sounds like quite a day ahead of you geno.. good luck on it. wish i could be of some help on your search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackradio Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Sounds to me like you slashed him on the top of the back. That would give you the hair and maybe the gargling sound. I hope I'm wrong. Finding where he was standing will tel the story I think. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdswtr Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 (edited) If you had a pass through you would have blood on the shaft and vanes. Is it possible when you say you heard two noises that the first could have been a branch and the second the log? Definatley go check things over in the am. Hopefully the rain holds off for you as well but I think you grazed him and nothing more without blood on the arrow. This might actually be a blessing as well. If you grazed him he lives on for another day, if hes wounded and you cant find him thats every hunters nightmare. I would much prefer a clean miss or very worst case a graze than a bad suffering shot. Chin up man Edited October 14, 2012 by wdswtr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxsmitz201 Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Ive seen this scenario before dont doubt at all it could happen again. Friend of mine made a very steep shot like geno and was shooting fixed blades and one blade was enough to cut through a seam in the ribs knick a lung and kill a deer. We were baffled his broadhead was clean no blood just fur, but we had a blood trail. Found the deer a few hundred yards away. The deer had about a 5 inch gash and when we were butchering it we could see where the blade sliced through a seam in the ribs... call it a lucky shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle rider Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 I would say mixed metal heads can do this. No blood but gurgling is strange. Let us know if you find him tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 I think that gargle sound is a good thing. Sounds like the lungs filling with blood. I have taken a few, with bow, that made that sound and they didn't go far. One of them acted like he wasn't even hit. I remember, after i shot, he bounded and looked back for a few seconds then started browsing! He started to walk away, like nothing happened and then just fell over, kicked a few times and that was it. I think your in for a good surprise this morning. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Deer make a whole variety of sounds including a very low gutteral bleat which maybe could be described as a "gargling sound". Regarding the arrow, you say there was no blood. How about other things like fat, grease, or any other material other than the normal finish? Ha-ha ..... I guess I'm probably a little late with the questions. By the time you get back on the computer, you probably will have just finished taking your deer home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielT Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 You should call deer tracking dogs....they will always get to your deers bed..then you would know and have peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Good luck Geno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTF Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Good luck man. I sure hope you find something out this morning one way or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First-light Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Good luck finding him. Give it your all today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agross Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Good luck and let us know as soon as you find something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeGuy Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 I dont see how a rage extreme could go through anywhere and only come out with some fur....id have to hear this noise u say he made but im sure u will do ur best to recover and or track. Good luck either way. Btw, i think its pretty sweet that they spark on impact ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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