Decorated Vet Arrested Faces Felony Charges For AR Magazines

[13BVET]

http://offgridsurvival.com/decoratedcombatveteran-arrested-newyorkfelonies-armagazines/

[josephmrtn]

Hope his judge is good!!!!

[dbHunterNY]

if the story is true the sheriff's office is in deep!

[growalot]

I hate to be say I'm not believing this...but...he had me until the defense fund

[Culvercreek hunt club]

It was in the newspaper

http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/article/20130107/NEWS07/701079944

[growalot]

Thanks Culver.....That story reads a tad different than the first one IMO...Either way I thought unless you are a ECO or have solid probable cause..... a vehicle search is illegal in NY... At the very least saying no would force them to state a reason.... Which may be rebutted in court later..due to on board cameras

[jjb4900]

Thanks Culver.....That story reads a tad different than the first one IMO...Either way I thought unless you are a ECO or have solid probable cause..... a vehicle search is illegal in NY... At the very least saying no would force them to state a reason.... Which may be rebutted in court later..due to on board cameras

he may have even voluntarily offered up that he had them......and it looks like if he had 30 round magazines, he could have been charged under the old law.

Edited February 1, 2013 by jjb4900

[Nomad]

Who says he was charged under the new law? The only high cap mags legal before this new law were ones made prior to '94 .I don't own high cap long guns but i know my pre'94 high cap mags for my handguns were good to go. But any made after that were not.

Am I wrong ?

[jjb4900]

Who says he was charged under the new law? The only high cap mags legal before this new law were ones made prior to '94 .I don't own high cap long guns but i know my pre'94 high cap mags for my handguns were good to go. But any made after that were not.

Am I wrong ?

no, you're not wrong

[13BVET]

These mags were allegedly found during a random vehicle check. Of course, the legality of random vehicle checks should definitely be questioned.

[josephmrtn]

So Stupid!!!! guy lives 10 min from my place... ya know its my personal opinion that these are groundless charges since all he has to do is say he will get rid of the mags and they have to let him go... (in fact i could call him and offer to take em off his hands, NOT....... LOL)

[jjb4900]

So Stupid!!!! guy lives 10 min from my place... ya know its my personal opinion that these are groundless charges since all he has to do is say he will get rid of the mags and they have to let him go... (in fact i could call him and offer to take em off his hands, NOT....... LOL)

the law he is charged under is the old one that's been in effect for a number of years, not the new one, so it's not just a matter of saying he'll get rid of them.

[josephmrtn]

oh so it is not the new one.... hmmm what would he need to do then?

[jjb4900]

oh so it is not the new one.... hmmm what would he need to do then?

hire a lawyer.

[ants]

These mags were allegedly found during a random vehicle check. Of course, the legality of random vehicle checks should definitely be questioned.

There has to be more to it than that. He either had to give them permission to search his car or they had to find probable cause to

search it. But if he thought the mags were legal he may have just told the officers about them and handed them over. Why they would then arrest him on such a B.S. charge is open for debate.

[BizCT]

Read the article quick, seems like the guy was in the wrong. The police didnt do anythign wrong.

[13BVET]

How did a "routine" traffic stop turn into a search of his vehicle? Where's the probable cause? We can speculate one way or the other.

[jjb4900]

How did a "routine" traffic stop turn into a search of his vehicle? Where's the probable cause? We can speculate one way or the other.

may have been something as simple as them asking him if he had any guns in the car and he was honest, possibly because he was unaware of the law.....but yes, at this point we can only speculate.

[dbHunterNY]

so why does the old law make it felony counts? they must not have been pre-ban mags and that's why?

[wmig2]

The goverment doesnt want to piss people off like this. They havent seen anything yet. What promoted search? I'm thinking it was bias because he was a soldier at some point. Screw cuomo and his bs safe law.

[Doc]

I believe that if they were "in plain sight", like laying on the seat or somewhere else where the cop doesn't have to root around in the car, I believe that discovery under those circumstances is allowed.

[jjb4900]

we all know that anyone who has ever served in the military is of outstanding character and there has never been a crime committed by an active or retired member from any of the armed forces, so the cops must have done something shady to have made this arrest........better yet, do an internet search of crimes commiitted by military personnel, your head will spin and cops will look like saints when you're done.

Edited February 1, 2013 by jjb4900

[13BVET]

we all know that anyone who has ever served in the military is of outstanding character and there has never been a crime committed by an active or retired member from any of the armed forces, so the cops must have done something shady to have made this arrest........better yet, do an internet search of crimes commiitted by military personnel, your head will spin and cops will look like saints when you're done.

What are you talking about??

[13BVET]

You have a problem with military people?

Edited February 1, 2013 by 13BVET

[jjb4900]

did I mention you? I notice people are quick to jump on police officers and question their character and blame them all for the actions of a few, but when a member of the military is under attack everyone jumps to their defense as if they do no wrong........I have nothing but respect for members of the military, but judge them as individuals, not as a group.........just about every post suggest's that the police did something wrong and not the fact that this guy had multiple illegal magazines.

Edited February 1, 2013 by jjb4900