new rest and sight for 2013....

[WNYBuckHunter]

A fact is a fact Eddie. FPS is lost using WB compared to a drop away.

3 fps doesnt make any difference, especially in a hunting rig. You can nit pick all you want, but its a proven, extremely simple rest with no moving parts to fail when you dont need them to.

[shawnhu]

A fact is a fact Eddie. FPS is lost using WB compared to a drop away.

3 fps doesnt make any difference, especially in a hunting rig. You can nit pick all you want, but its a proven, extremely simple rest with no moving parts to fail when you dont need them to.

You can argue this until the cows come home, you use what you use, and others will use what they use. 3 fps or not, it's still slower and consumes energy that can be used at the broad head.

[WNYBuckHunter]

You can argue this until the cows come home, you use what you use, and others will use what they use. 3 fps or not, it's still slower and consumes energy that can be used at the broad head.

 

Yeah yeah yeah, tell it to the deer that fall to many a WB each year. Ask them if 3fps meant anything lol. Its ok, gotta keep telling yourself how much that latest and greatest drop away improves your bow and was worth the money you paid. I get it.

[shawnhu]

You can argue this until the cows come home, you use what you use, and others will use what they use. 3 fps or not, it's still slower and consumes energy that can be used at the broad head.

Yeah yeah yeah, tell it to the deer that fall to many a WB each year. Ask them if 3fps meant anything lol. Its ok, gotta keep telling yourself how much that latest and greatest drop away improves your bow and was worth the money you paid. I get it.

So you have a problem accepting facts and statistics? I get it. You're one of those that like to make personal attacks on others because you know deep down, you lack the intelligence to hold a discussion on an Internet forum. Got it!

[TeeBugg]

I like them both and i agree they both have pros and cons. 3 fps....yeah not gonna worry about that. If youve gotta squeeze every last bit of speed out...and it comes down to 3 fps, then something else is wrong. I choose to shoot my deer at 30 yards and under. I shoot heavy 2413 xx75 eastons with 100 grain crimson talons out of a 60# bow thats lucky if it hits 270fps. So 3 fps means nothing to me. Hit a deer with my setup, or another setup that cranks out 330fps at 30 yards...the result is the same "dead deer".

Then again its my money i spend and yours that you spend. I like my limbdriver but i think im gonna trade or sell it. Just my .02

[WNYBuckHunter]

So you have a problem accepting facts and statistics? I get it. You're one of those that like to make personal attacks on others because you know deep down, you lack the intelligence to hold a discussion on an Internet forum. Got it!

 

Accepting what? 3 fps? I have no doubt they slow it down a few fps, its been proven for a long time, but you dont seem to accept the fact that 3 fps in the world of 300+fps bows is MEANINGLESS. Dont get so butt hurt over it.

 

BTW, I have yet to make a personal attack on you, I can see you didnt waste much time getting yours in there though. LMAO typical.

[TeeBugg]

Just an off the wall observation/question....most ive seen that complain about the speed loss of the wb....are the hunters who shoot further than 40 yards. Am i wrong in saying this?

[WNYBuckHunter]

Nothing wrong with them out there, I shoot mine out at 50 and 60 yards at the range, no problems.

 

I think most that have had issues either didnt have them turned correctly or just wanted to have the latest and greatest. I almost fell into that trap until I had my bow tuned properly, then there was no issue. Others are too concerned about less of a speed loss than a kisser button or string leeches.

 

On my rig, a Hoyt Maxxis 35 (29" draw @ 63lbs)with a WB, string leeches and a kisser, Im throwing a 375 grain hunting arrow (with broadhead included) at 293 fps. I cant remember my KE right now, but its in the good for Elk range lol.

[TeeBugg]

Ive heard and seen the same. Just a question is all.

[phade]

Why is it you don't want to keep the LD?

[fasteddie]

I know a couple of speed freaks that are sooooo concerned about their bow speed . One uses cat whiskers and the other uses string leeches to quiet the string . However , they both have them placed wrong ( half way between the axle and loop ) . They are losing speed and would pick some up if they moved the whiskers / leeches  closer to the axles . But who am I to tell these experts anything ! The WB is an excellent rest !

Speed kills but accuracy does a better job !

[Doc]

Lol ..... The old "speed" argument. Makes me wonder how we ever killed deer back in the recurve days, or even with that old Bear Whitetail Hunter that took so many deer. Those old arrows were probably doing well if they broke the 200 fps barrier. Technology for technology's sake. Don't feel bad ..... I went through the same phase. You'll likely grow out of it ... lol.

[shawnhu]

I know a couple of speed freaks that are sooooo concerned about their bow speed . One uses cat whiskers and the other uses string leeches to quiet the string . However , they both have them placed wrong ( half way between the axle and loop ) . They are losing speed and would pick some up if they moved the whiskers / leeches closer to the axles . But who am I to tell these experts anything ! The WB is an excellent rest !

Speed kills but accuracy does a better job !

So are you making the claim that the WB is a more accurate rest? Sure sounds like you are by your above statement. With all being the same, you gain more from a non WB, at the expense if additional cost. More accurate? Yeh, right!

[shawnhu]

Lol ..... The old "speed" argument. Makes me wonder how we ever killed deer back in the recurve days, or even with that old Bear Whitetail Hunter that took so many deer. Those old arrows were probably doing well if they broke the 200 fps barrier. Technology for technology's sake. Don't feel bad ..... I went through the same phase. You'll likely grow out of it ... lol.

Doc, would you happen to know if the older arrows from the recurve dad were heavier or not, if so, by how much? It's not all about speed sometimes, energy also matters for penetration.

[wooly]

This has gotten funny!

@3fps difference shot side by side, your "slower" arrows tip would be passing through the target at almost the same time as your "faster" arrows nock dissapeared!

[Doewhacker]

Do the math on the difference 3fps is to see just how tiny it is at 20 yards and you will realize how dumb a conversation this has become. It aint the equipment, its how you shoot with it.

[WNYBuckHunter]

So are you making the claim that the WB is a more accurate rest? Sure sounds like you are by your above statement. With all being the same, you gain more from a non WB, at the expense if additional cost. More accurate? Yeh, right!

 

The WB is just as accurate as any drop away.

[shawnhu]

Do the math on the difference 3fps is to see just how tiny it is at 20 yards and you will realize how dumb a conversation this has become. It aint the equipment, its how you shoot with it.

Oh, hey DW, glad I see you're back at it again! How was that vacation you took? Back for more drama?

[shawnhu]

So are you making the claim that the WB is a more accurate rest? Sure sounds like you are by your above statement. With all being the same, you gain more from a non WB, at the expense if additional cost. More accurate? Yeh, right!

The WB is just as accurate as any drop away.

Not disagreeing with you. Your point well taken.

[Doewhacker]

The only drama here is you looking like a fool over a bow rest and 3 fps.

 

Any new conspiracy's we should be investigating?

 

 

 

Oh, hey DW, glad I see you're back at it again! How was that vacation you took? Back for more drama?

 

[PWGUNNY]

I have a QAD drop rest and it has been flawless during plenty of shooting over the past 2 years.  I think the Whisker Biscuit is a great hunting sight in terms of price, function, simplicity.  I only went to the QAD for slightly better accuracy in terms of target shooting.

[Arrow Flinger]

If anyone notices the difference of 3 FPS they should be working for the Police as a radar gun. What you will notice with the WB is the noise, especially on those cold,calm, quiet mornings. A buddy of mine had a deer bust him because of the noise the rest made when he drew back on a deer. Needless to say, he changed rests. Just something else to think about.

[SplitG2]

I just picked up a carbon apache drop away.  I have the QAD pro ultra rest, it works great but the arm is loud. 

[TeeBugg]

If anyone notices the difference of 3 FPS they should be working for the Police as a radar gun. What you will notice with the WB is the noise, especially on those cold,calm, quiet mornings. A buddy of mine had a deer bust him because of the noise the rest made when he drew back on a deer. Needless to say, he changed rests. Just something else to think about.

Agree with the radar gun part lol! As for the sound....never had that issue. Ive hunted in snow with aluminum arrows and never had an issue with the biscuit.

[Fanaddict]

You couldn't give me a WB!! For that matter you couldn't even pay me to shoot with one!! I shoot feathers and had nothing but problems with them.