josephmrtn Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 You couldn't give me a WB!! For that matter you couldn't even pay me to shoot with one!! I shoot feathers and had nothing but problems with them. I can see probs!!!! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 You couldn't give me a WB!! For that matter you couldn't even pay me to shoot with one!! I shoot feathers and had nothing but problems with them. They arent made to work with feathers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhu Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 The only drama here is you looking like a fool over a bow rest and 3 fps. Any new conspiracy's we should be investigating? Oh, hey DW, glad I see you're back at it again! How was that vacation you took? Back for more drama? This website has become so over the top with all of the unreal Bullshit and just plain stupid people, I will no longer post here. Enjoy your conspiracy's boys. So you're just a hypocrite that keeps coming back for more abuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doewhacker Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Did I say no longer post here.... forever? Reading comprehension and archery are not your strong suits I see. So how did that conspiracy work out for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Doc, would you happen to know if the older arrows from the recurve dad were heavier or not, if so, by how much? It's not all about speed sometimes, energy also matters for penetration. I have to admit that we seldom even weighed those old port orford cedar shafts, but I have to believe they were quite heavy. And as a matter of fact, even when we went to the aluminums, spine was king, and weight just simply was not an issue. This craze for speed is a relatively recent concern among archers, and I never really did get seriously involved with it. I have not gone to the ultra-light arrow materials, and all the gadgets designed to increase speed. I hunt with the same arrows that I used back in the 70's......Easton aluminum. I find that most bowhunters like to argue over insignificance. When you actually see the differences that a few fps really makes, it truly is unimpressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeBugg Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 Same here doc. I started bowhunting about 13 yeare ago when it seems the speee craze was in its infancy. Now and even then im still not caught up in it. I shoot logs so to speak. I dont think ive ever shot an arrow that weighed anything near 350grains lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow Flinger Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Same here doc. I started bowhunting about 13 yeare ago when it seems the speee craze was in its infancy. Now and even then im still not caught up in it. I shoot logs so to speak. I dont think ive ever shot an arrow that weighed anything near 350grains lol I hear ya. My arrow is 462 grains! I think it would be very hard to get down to the 315 grain arrow I would need to shoot to be IBO, especially shooting a 29 1/4 inch arrow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeBugg Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 Honestly i dont even know how much my arrow weighs lol but im sure its not under 430 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witty Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Haha I feel bad for mentioning my set up. Didn't mean to get so many people's panties in a bunch. I shoot a Mathews Monster 7.0 @ 70# with a 31in draw. 3fps isn't going to do much to my arrows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesse.james Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 (edited) Haha I feel bad for mentioning my set up. Didn't mean to get so many people's panties in a bunch. I shoot a Mathews Monster 7.0 @ 70# with a 31in draw. 3fps isn't going to do much to my arrows.How did you manage a 31in draw. To my knowledge the monster only comes in 30 in max. Either way. The extra contact of a wb can cause inconsistences with the shot. Let's not kid ourselves otherwise. Nothing wrong with the wb. Its a pretty solid rest stand gets the job done. You sacrifice a bit of speed and accuracy for simplicity. Its a trade off. Edited May 30, 2013 by jesse.james Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow Flinger Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 (edited) How did you manage a 31in draw. To my knowledge the monster only comes in 30 in max. Either way. The extra contact of a wb can cause inconsistences with the shot. Let's not kid ourselves otherwise. Nothing wrong with the wb. Its a pretty solid rest stand gets the job done. You sacrifice a bit of speed and accuracy for simplicity. Its a trade off. Monster 7 goes up to a 32 inch draw. Edited May 30, 2013 by Arrow Flinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witty Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 (edited) The Monster 7.0 goes to 31. They have another monster that goes to 32. I think the MR8 maybe, not really sure. I've been shooing a WB since I took up archery and have had no accuracy issues. Edited May 30, 2013 by Witty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeBugg Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 Ive never had accuracy issues with the biscuit. Robin hoods happen when i use a biscuit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefbkt Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/flytalk/2012/02/shoot-me-down-whisker-biscuit-still-best-rest-bowhunting Well here is what I came up with while scouring the Internet. I would like to retract my statement that a WB is not very accurate past 30 yards. This video clearly proves it is. WNYBuckhunter I believe I owe you something? I have 3 bows to choose from, so take your pick. I did also find a site that had a speed comparison. They shot the WB and drop away through a chrono at 6 ft and saw 3 fps difference with no change in POI at 20 yards. At 30 yards the fps differential was ~14 and POI diff was 1". So even though it is a little slower, it still maintained accuracy. The only major complaint I've seen is that the WB will start to harm your fletchings after a few hundred shots, more so for the 4" vanes rather than the 2" vanes. So there we have it, all in all the WB is a great rest for hunting. Can we all stop the foolishness now? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Do I hear an Amen ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow Flinger Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 (edited) The Monster 7.0 goes to 31. They have another monster that goes to 32. I think the MR8 maybe, not really sure. I've been shooing a WB since I took up archery and have had no accuracy issues. MR7.....32 inch draw Monster7 goes to 31 Depends on which one you have. I would also think the MR7 mods would fit in the Monster7 so it could go to 32. Edited May 31, 2013 by Arrow Flinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 How did you manage a 31in draw. To my knowledge the monster only comes in 30 in max. Either way. The extra contact of a wb can cause inconsistences with the shot. Let's not kid ourselves otherwise. Nothing wrong with the wb. Its a pretty solid rest stand gets the job done. You sacrifice a bit of speed and accuracy for simplicity. Its a trade off. Please, prove that a WB affects accuracy at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/flytalk/2012/02/shoot-me-down-whisker-biscuit-still-best-rest-bowhunting Well here is what I came up with while scouring the Internet. I would like to retract my statement that a WB is not very accurate past 30 yards. This video clearly proves it is. WNYBuckhunter I believe I owe you something? I have 3 bows to choose from, so take your pick. I did also find a site that had a speed comparison. They shot the WB and drop away through a chrono at 6 ft and saw 3 fps difference with no change in POI at 20 yards. At 30 yards the fps differential was ~14 and POI diff was 1". So even though it is a little slower, it still maintained accuracy. The only major complaint I've seen is that the WB will start to harm your fletchings after a few hundred shots, more so for the 4" vanes rather than the 2" vanes. So there we have it, all in all the WB is a great rest for hunting. Can we all stop the foolishness now? . Im just glad youve been enlightened lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesse.james Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 (edited) You dont see WBs at national archery competitions. If they didnt mess with accuracy then why wouldnt competition shooters use them? Edited June 1, 2013 by jesse.james 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeBugg Posted June 2, 2013 Author Share Posted June 2, 2013 (edited) Never watched anyone shoot in a national competition so i couldnt answer that. All i know is what works for me so....maybe because alot of competition shooters shoot fat arrows...and the biscuit doesnt come big enough? Thats the problem i had with my 2413's Edited June 2, 2013 by TeeBugg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow Flinger Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 The only thing you need to be the least concerned with on a WB is the noise when drawing/shooting and the fact they can be a little rough on fletches/feathers. The accuracy factor is a non issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweet old bill Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 a WB tip, is get the large hole size and then no ware on your feathers or vanes and a lot less noise or drag. I have WB's on 2 bows and they shoot as well as a drop a way without the tuning issue or as I always say the Kiss issue....keep it simple stupid.. I have the bows setup with slider sights with fiber optic scope on all of them. bow is a bowtect commander 2007 RH, 29 inch inch draw, peak weight 60 lbs for 3D / spots/ and hunting bow is a Hoyt 2007 same setup as above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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