WNYBuckHunter Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Lol ... this is how this subject always winds up. I think that's why people start these topics. They know it will always degenerate into name calling and personal attacks. Seems to work every time.My response was to belo's first swing. Funny how the one that initiated the poop flinging isnt being pointed out here.Actually, Im not surprised at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 I started the topic to show the response I got, nothing more, nothing less. exactly. then enter the negative nancys. Like I said, I think his response was perfect and what I would like to see. A compromise to help the elderly and disabled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctjaeger Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Sweeney is probably one of the best, down to earth legislators I have ever dealt with. It amazed me how many times when I asked to talk to his staff he would make himself a available for the meeting as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Yet kids are permitted to use crossbows during the youth hunt on Columbus day weekend in NYS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 No they arent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 exactly. then enter the negative nancys. Negative because I pointed out the politics he played in the letter or negative because I disagreed with your opinion? I must have pushed a button to elicit such an unintelligent response from you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Yet kids are permitted to use crossbows during the youth hunt on Columbus day weekend in NYS It is no longer a legal implement in NY for any game in any season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 It is no longer a legal implement in NY for any game in any season. if you read the regulations for this year's youth hunt, it say's they may use a crossbow...........gotta be an error on their part. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Has to be. I bet they expected it to go through when they went to print. does it say that on the web site as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Has to be. I bet they expected it to go through when they went to print. does it say that on the web site as well? if you go to the special youth hunt topic, the link to the DEC page is posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephmrtn Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 here it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 That totally has me stumped. If it were me I would email the DEC before I attempted to take a crossbow afield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephmrtn Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 or call Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doewhacker Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Still illegal to use no matter the season, http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/68802.html There is a link to it on that youth hunt page under the FAQ section. Why they put that on there that way I have no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rossi Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Have you ever seen something the NYB has stood for that Sweeny doesnt vote for or support? I havent. Its pretty obvious. I havent seen anything from HSUS on the issue. When you say he is in their pocket it sounds like you are implying they are either buying him or they are seen as a threatening voting force for his seat in LI or members of his party. With 1,000 members I find any of that hard to believe. I don't doubt what you are saying about him guiding policy consistent with the wishes of the NYB. But in light of the above paragraph, I believe that is because in his own judgment that he agrees with the NYB's positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rossi Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Vote em out fellas, we got the numbers.Grisanti represents the senate district around Buffalo. The districting, Gerry-mandered or not, is supposed to be set up quote "ideally" so that each of the 63 districts represents 312,550 people. How many sportsmen out of 312,550 people in the Buffalo area are willing to vote against Grisanti, a republican, and staunch supporter of crossbow use? Sweeney is a democrat assemblyman who represents the Long Island area. I don't know how many assembly districts we have, but each district is to "ideally" represent 128,652 people. How many sportsmen out of 128,652 people in the LI area are willing to vote against Sweeney, a staunch opponent of crossbows? Even if it was feasible: would it be wise to vote out Sweeney considering he is from a down state district, is generally pro hunting, and is a democrat? Voting out a down state, democrat who supports hunting would be very, very foolish... And to do it over crossbows? The Reality: We need bipartisan support for hunting and until NYC succeeds from the state, the support of down state law makers is essential... Sweeney supports hunting, is a democrat, and represents down state. Plus he chairs the assembly environmental conservation committee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Somehow they are guiding his decisions. How? Im not going to make baseless accusations, but its pretty clear that it is happening. The guy sounds like an NYB talking head on every proposal they have anything to do with. Its hard to believe that someone actually buys into everything they do. Even belo doesnt agree with all of their stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 And the readers digest version is HE STILL SUCKS. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rossi Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Somehow they are guiding his decisions. How? Im not going to make baseless accusations, but its pretty clear that it is happening. The guy sounds like an NYB talking head on every proposal they have anything to do with. Its hard to believe that someone actually buys into everything they do. Even belo doesnt agree with all of their stuff.Maybe there is a pissing contest going on between a few lawmakers and they are shoving back and forth? IDK... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 And the readers digest version is HE STILL SUCKS. Or he is a hero... depending on what side of the fence you're on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 It is quite possible that he is a dedicated archer and that's what drives him to back no crossbows during archery season..........if that's the case, I respect him for what he is doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Maybe there is a pissing contest going on between a few lawmakers and they are shoving back and forth? IDK... Very possible. Its a prime example of why one person in particular should not hold enough power to derail things like that. Its an issue that should be given the chance to be voted on by the Assembly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rossi Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Very possible. Its a prime example of why one person in particular should not hold enough power to derail things like that. Its an issue that should be given the chance to be voted on by the Assembly.Good point, who the heck sets things up like they are anyhow? LOL... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhu Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Lol ... this is how this subject always winds up. I think that's why people start these topics. They know it will always degenerate into name calling and personal attacks. Seems to work every time. My response was to belo's first swing. Funny how the one that initiated the poop flinging isnt being pointed out here. Actually, Im not surprised at all. But isn't that how you work? I recall YOU calling out the ones on defense and not the offenders multiple times. Funny now that the tables have turned. Just letting you know how it feels on the short end. PS, I do agree about the moron part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted August 6, 2013 Author Share Posted August 6, 2013 Hopefully I shoot a buck with my xbow in CT and/or PA. I will send Sweeney some pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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