Cabin Fever Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I know that Labor Day weekend is usually the rule of thumb for planting grains for fall plots. I did that before, and we had a warm fall and extended growing season. The wheat, rye, and oats grew fast and got tall and stemmy. What's been your experience with timing the planting of grains? I did all the prep work today, so I'm debating whether I should seed this weekend, as they are calling for rain Sunday night/Monday OR if I should hold out until next weekend. I guess it's just a crapshoot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjs4 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Threw down WW WR and some oats two weekends ago- touch early but soil is lacking more than I wish it was (or can afford to fix) and rain was pending...pretty easy to establish WR and WW with broadcast to bare soils IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 (edited) This year I dropped the winter rye in last weekend before Labor day, but these plots are in 6k NZ. And then it rained a bit for two days after - that was good luck I hope.. Edited August 28, 2013 by Fantail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuckersdaddy Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 plant it. if we get a very late winter just cut it back if it starts getting too big. just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-150 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 planting grains or other crops is always a gamble,hindsight is always 20/20. The vo-ag teacher in school told me there is no more of gambler than a farmer. If you get rain or not, or to much rain and the seed may rot. If the time to plant now would be a good time to plant. Good Luck !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYSuperSportsman Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Ive planted earlier and had success but I will be planting rye this week/weekend and I am sure it will workout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I just got the call yesterday morning...my WW is in ...going to pic it up today...only problem is due to the knee I have yet to stretch the fence and disc.. ..Then it wasn't suppose to rain...rained all nite long......Oh well that will help with the discing later.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phade Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Stagger the planting. I surprised more people don't do this when they can. They go one weekend to work on the plot and then at the parcel again the next weekend to hang a stand, etc. It takes five minutes to seed a small-ish plot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landtracdeerhunter Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Yeh, I stagger plantings on the oats, about 1 acre, now to the 10th, 3 plantings. The wheat will go in on the 5th, or there about, to assure enough top growth. It depends on the length of the growing season, your elevation, and moisture content of the soil. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabin Fever Posted August 28, 2013 Author Share Posted August 28, 2013 Great suggestion with the staggering! Never considered that or even heard of it before! So, I would typically prepare the seedbed, broadcast seed, disc lightly to cover seed, then pack. When you stagger the planting, do you just broadcast the seed and leave lay on the soil, without discing and packing? If so, I like that idea even more! One more question. It's been a few years since I've planted fall grains, as I'd pretty much given up on them. I called the seed store yesterday to get prices. He (Mennonite) told me that since I'm not interested in actual grain production, that I don't need to fertilize. I'm planning a 1 acre plot of WW/WR/Oats and may even throw in some buckwheat. I thought I remembered that WW and oats needed fertilizer? Maybe not? Would fertilizer make the plantings sweeter, greener, extend their palatability, or make them more attractive in any way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 The mix I put in had WR and oats in it. I put it in last weekend. I hae never seen it disced after seeding. I would thin that would burry the seed to deeply,. I don't have a roller or cultipacker so I opt for a chain link fence drag and the rain for seed contact. The mix I put down sadi 1/4" to 1/2" bury for the seed. I would think a disc would drive it deeper than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabin Fever Posted August 28, 2013 Author Share Posted August 28, 2013 No, I just set my discs so they just tickle the ground enough to disrupt the soil and cover the seed. I can walk around afterwards and still see a lot of the seed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Gottcha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SplitG2 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I have always planted my grains labor day weekend - Sept 15th. They usually are quick growers and I tend to want lush new growth! Candy Candy Candy to those deer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landtracdeerhunter Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 On my own experiences, deer tend to favor the young tender oat grasses over the more mature wide leaf early in the season. Later on, say Novemberish, they hit it all hard as the sugars are brought on by the frosts and lite freezes. Two years ago, our growing season went into late October, making the oat plantings good right through Thanksgiving. Several doe hit it hard during breeding time, pulling the bucks, thus giving HAEA. (HUNTERS AN EXTREME ADVANTAGE) Last year, I threw in several acres of radish, which threw the whole equation out of sink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygmy Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I just finished planting 2 1/4 acres Sunday.. I broadcast oats and clover, dragged over with the chain link fence, and we got a nice rain less than 24 hours later.. I'll let y'all know in a couple of weeks how it's turning out..< Says Pygmy optimistically>.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I bought my 50#s of WW ...50#s of oats ...and 2 #'s or med red and aslike clovers...nowv if I can get it done... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabin Fever Posted August 28, 2013 Author Share Posted August 28, 2013 Does everyone use the regular oats or splurge for the Buck Forage Oats that are claimed to be more cold tolerant?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Now that thew fence is up I can lay down the rest of the lime...another 7bags and disc in the reg oats and the WW...then Ill spread some red and aslike clover over the top of that...using15-15-15 fertalizer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landtracdeerhunter Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Does everyone use the regular oats or splurge for the Buck Forage Oats that are claimed to be more cold tolerant?? Coated the spot with year old manure and got some plowing done yesterday. Soil still came up wet in spots. Going to hit it with the rototiller when right moisture. Hope to get my first oat planting soon. I plant just the common oats seed right out of the combine, as have excellent results for years. Going to post some pics on progression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabin Fever Posted September 1, 2013 Author Share Posted September 1, 2013 Broadcasted my first of 3 planned seedings today. Suppose to have rain and thunderstorms tonight and tomorrow. Plan on doing 2 more seedings 5-7 days apart, depending on rain in forecast. Should have a nice variety of plant maturity later this fall and winter. If my plots can grow grains, as well as they do rocks, I should have a hell of a crop out there! Damn those rocks!! Swear I picked up 10,000, OK it seemed like that many anyway! Spent ~2hrs out in a 1 acre plot picking up rocks in the heat and humidity! That sucked!! At one point, I thought someone would probably find me laying in the plot! Oh well, plenty of rocks to cover me up with! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 (edited) I am so glad we got the york rake...this coming spring it will get a heck of a work out...especially on the ground I'm discing ..hopefully tomorrow Edited September 1, 2013 by growalot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabin Fever Posted September 1, 2013 Author Share Posted September 1, 2013 I am so glad we got the york rake...this coming spring it will get a heck of a work out...especially on the ground I'm discing ..hopefully tomorrow OMG!! I forgot I had a york rake!!!!!! DUH!!! Been a couple years since I've worked the fields up!!! SOB!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Man Im so glad we dont have rocky soil. Out of 4 plots we put in this year, not a single rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landtracdeerhunter Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Darn that glacial till, LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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