Caveman Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 What's the smallest round you would consider sufficient for coyotes? I'd like to preserve the pelts so I'm not keen on using my deer rifle. Is a well placed .17 HMR ok in your opinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephmrtn Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 22 LR or mag should kill em if you hit in the right spot... i will stick to my 308. Win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhu Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 What's the smallest round you would consider sufficient for coyotes? I'd like to preserve the pelts so I'm not keen on using my deer rifle. Is a well placed .17 HMR ok in your opinion? Unless you're in an open field, it may be hard to track from a 17HMR hit. If you're good enough for a headshot, use CCI FMJ. If you're going for a heart, go with the CCI GamePoint or the Hornady XTP. Double lung, either the GamePoint or the CCI TNT should suffice. I would go with the VMax for this application. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhu Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I wouldn't go with the VMax for this application. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 (edited) You'll constantly hear people tell you of how deer has been killed with a 22LR and it's certainly possible because as you know, shot placement is everything. I've never tried but if a 22LR can take down a deer, I'm certain a 17HMR can take down a coyote. For small calibers, you have to place the round perfectly. Larger calibers are more forgiving. So how good of a shot are you really. That's what you have to ask yourself. Are you willing to pass up an opportunity if you don't have a perfect shot? At under a 100 yards, no crosswind, open field with no obstructions, I'll take the shot with a 17HMR. At a 100 yards with heavy cross winds and the coyote facing me, bobbing his head up and down as he sniffs the ground, then the air, I would pass on him with my 17HMR. With my 308, I just aim at the chest and let her rip without a second thought. So a 17HMR can certainly kill a coyote with a 17HMR. The real question is can you kill a coyote with a 17HMR. That something only you know the answer to. Edited August 28, 2013 by Elmo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREDATE Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I've never used a .17hmr, but I do use a .22mag during deer season as my area is shotgun only for deer. It would be worth a look into the new .17 Super Mag. My brother just got one and says it shoots phenomanally, devastating water jugs at 150+ yds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Water Rat Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 How much was it .....about $350.00 ? I've been number 1 on the waiting list at my local gun shop. Still waiting for them to get them in. Your talking about the Savage B-Mag ......correct ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent death Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Under 80 yards 22.lr hollow point head shot. Or a 22 hornet. round. Out past 150yds break out the 22-250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verminater71 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 why not use a centerfire, you can kill them with an air gun, but use a rimfire and you'll chase more and lose more than you want with the new regs, maybe a .17 hornet, .204, you can use it all season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thphm Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 the problem with the 17 is at any long distance the wind effects it, 22 mag.would be a better choice.But I think the 223 is still a all around favorite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Water Rat Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I just want the 17 mag for " Plinking ". There's better choices for coyotes than a 17 caliber . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREDATE Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 How much was it .....about $350.00 ? I've been number 1 on the waiting list at my local gun shop. Still waiting for them to get them in. Your talking about the Savage B-Mag ......correct ?? Yep the B-Mag and I think $350.00 is about what he paid. I'd scoop up a nice used .222 if I had the opportunity, but will probably just end up saving for a new bow or .204 ruger. An over/under combo like the tikka .222 over 12Ga. would be great as well. Til then, I'm content with just using the .22mag and #4buckshot outta the shotty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygmy Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Use the .223... Not overly destructive to pelts and is capable of clean kills with body shots out to 400 yards or so. The 22-250 is an excellent round also, but is more destructive to pelts. Head shots ?? Good luck unless the coyote is in a trap. I have had darn few opportunities at stationary coyotes, and head shots are not very often an option. Rimfires like the .22 mag are effective at close range ( 150 yards or less) but often require tracking and why limit yourself in range.. The .222 Rem is a sweet chambering ( I owned one for 50 years) but is no better than a .223 and the .223 is much more available in rifle choice and ammo. I'm wondering how many coyotes the HEAD SHOT advocates have actually killed... I have only killed a half dozen of them, but most of them were moving and would have been tough to execute a head shot on.. One exception was a big Canadian dog that responded to my turkey call and got a face full of copper plated # 6 shot at about 15 yards for his effort. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EspressoBuzz Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Coyote head shot Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Oh man you made my day! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent death Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Umm apparently nobody shoots coyotes at night ? Go to a website ny predator hunters association And tell them guys nobody head shoots coyotes.. more coyotes are headshot at night then during the day ill give ya that . But still 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EspressoBuzz Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Yer right never shot one at night. Not that I wouldn't but I never had the opportunity. They get that close at night eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodjr55 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 At night you put there cross hair between the glowing eyes. Went to the western ny outdoors show last April went to the predator hunting seminar and I presenter's favorite line was "shoot him in the face" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREDATE Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 At night you put there cross hair between the glowing eyes. Went to the western ny outdoors show last April went to the predator hunting seminar and I presenter's favorite line was "shoot him in the face" This is fine to try ONLY after you've positively identified it as a predator(yote,fox,or bobcat). BY this I mean you must see the whole animal. IMO, "shoot him in the face" seems a bit vulgar to be saying at an outdoors show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodjr55 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Well yeah I assumed most people on here remembered their hunter safety coarse about positively identifying your target Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREDATE Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 LOL, you'd be surprised!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I'm sure my .223 would handle what ever coyote opportunities that come along ..... Long or short shots. And it shouldn't tear up the hide too much either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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