phade Posted September 19, 2013 Author Share Posted September 19, 2013 what a small head for that rack though... can we confirm this isn't a penned in deer like the douche from watertown last year? Gotta let the story play out. Seems legit, however, thus far. Same county as prior record. Same record has been broken 3 in 4 years, and a well-respected bow shop owner has hitched his bow shop name to it by taking pics of the buck with his truck in the background. Kind of stupid to do if it is tied to illegal activity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phade Posted September 19, 2013 Author Share Posted September 19, 2013 based on the no name magazine it's in I wouldn't be surprised.........or maybe it's a crossbow kill! Huh? You smoking something? It just happened and hasn't been put into a magazine yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Here is the whale-tales archey facebook page > https://www.facebook.com/WhaleTalesArcheryWI/photos_stream One guy commented saying the buck probably came from this place in Wisconsin > https://www.facebook.com/pages/Apple-Creek-Whitetails-Ranch/237446782967132?sk=photos_stream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First-light Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Problem 1-baiting Problem 2-Doewhacker Problem 3-Steve863 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First-light Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) Here is my 200...........notice the boys put out cooked corn?????? Edited September 19, 2013 by First-light 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phade Posted September 19, 2013 Author Share Posted September 19, 2013 Here is the whale-tales archey facebook page > https://www.facebook.com/WhaleTalesArcheryWI/photos_stream One guy commented saying the buck probably came from this place in Wisconsin > https://www.facebook.com/pages/Apple-Creek-Whitetails-Ranch/237446782967132?sk=photos_stream Again, nothing has popped up as questionable. The bow shop owner did lend him a bow for the pics, as he had ran home first apparently. But other than that...seems legit thus far. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Gotta let the story play out. Seems legit, however, thus far. Same county as prior record. Same record has been broken 3 in 4 years, and a well-respected bow shop owner has hitched his bow shop name to it by taking pics of the buck with his truck in the background. Kind of stupid to do if it is tied to illegal activity. agreed on letting it play out. But smart or not, some people do dumb things to make a buck no pun intended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phade Posted September 19, 2013 Author Share Posted September 19, 2013 Before anyone jumps on the "borrowed bow" comment - True story. I met a man who had just shot a 185" NET buck. I was picking up a doe I had shot that was being processed. The guy wanted to weigh the buck. He knew it was big, but didn't know just HOW big it really was score wise. I helped him drag it out of his Chevy tracker. My eyes almost popped out. I offered to take some nice photos of him and the buck with my DSLR and he agreed, but didn't have his bow with him, so I let him borrow mine. Pics went into publication and there he is with his buck and my bow...just to frame the shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moog5050 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Here is my 200...........notice the boys put out cooked corn?????? Awesome deer - see you at Burt's Camp on opening day. I call the stand near the cam. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Huh? You smoking something? It just happened and hasn't been put into a magazine yet. the bottom of the story posted on the link says "check out the July 2013 of North American Whitetail"...that leads me to believe it was killed last year.........For the exclusive, inside story on how Keller adjusted his strategy on the fly and brought down one of Wisconsin’s biggest whitetails ever, check out the July 2013 issue of North American Whitetail. Read more: http://www.northamericanwhitetail.com/2012/10/04/paul-keller-wisconsin-non-typical-trophy-buck/#ixzz2fN6axjxe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phade Posted September 19, 2013 Author Share Posted September 19, 2013 the bottom of the story posted on the link says "check out the July 2013 of North American Whitetail"...that leads me to believe it was killed last year.........For the exclusive, inside story on how Keller adjusted his strategy on the fly and brought down one of Wisconsin’s biggest whitetails ever, check out the July 2013 issue of North American Whitetail. Read more: http://www.northamericanwhitetail.com/2012/10/04/paul-keller-wisconsin-non-typical-trophy-buck/#ixzz2fN6axjxe You are looking at the 2012 buck. We're talking about the 2013 buck...someone posted the wrong buck on the first pic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 You are looking at the 2012 buck. We're talking about the 2013 buck...someone posted the wrong buck on the first pic. my mistake... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachpeaz Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 That buck that was shot last year was a farmed deer. It was shot free range, but thats not how it grew that big. The fact that another 240" non-typical comes out of the same area is very suspicious. Almost ALL deer that are fed a special diet to grow that big, grow large non-typical antlers. it is usuallly the first red flag of misdoing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phade Posted September 19, 2013 Author Share Posted September 19, 2013 That buck that was shot last year was a farmed deer. It was shot free range, but thats not how it grew that big. The fact that another 240" non-typical comes out of the same area is very suspicious. Almost ALL deer that are fed a special diet to grow that big, grow large non-typical antlers. it is usuallly the first red flag of misdoing. The one shot in 2012 is wisconsins current record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Before anyone jumps on the "borrowed bow" comment - True story. I met a man who had just shot a 185" NET buck. I was picking up a doe I had shot that was being processed. The guy wanted to weigh the buck. He knew it was big, but didn't know just HOW big it really was score wise. I helped him drag it out of his Chevy tracker. My eyes almost popped out. I offered to take some nice photos of him and the buck with my DSLR and he agreed, but didn't have his bow with him, so I let him borrow mine. Pics went into publication and there he is with his buck and my bow...just to frame the shot. yeah i have a few pics with my dad's gun because mine was further up the trail or something. not a big deal really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 one thing is for sure. It sucks that we even have to question these things. That some hunters are so sneaky and spot light hungry they can call into question the actual legitimate kills that others achieve. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve863 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Problem 1-baiting Problem 2-Doewhacker Problem 3-Steve863 Well, that's not us in that picture, Burt. You know darn well we have darker complexions than the two in the picture. The only baiting we ever used was the free fried chicken stand we set up down the road from your cabin. All the bubbas around your neighborhood went down to get the free chicken while me and Doewhacker trespassed on their land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doewhacker Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Well, that's not us in that picture, Burt. You know darn well we have darker complexions than the two in the picture. The only baiting we ever used was the free fried chicken stand we set up down the road from your cabin. All the bubbas around your neighborhood went down to get the free chicken while me and Doewhacker trespassed on their land. Thankfuly we have been sucessfull poaching deer this summer at Burts place and are all done before the hunting season even starts. Now we can sit back and relax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First-light Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Thankfuly we have been sucessfull poaching deer this summer at Burts place and are all done before the hunting season even starts. Now we can sit back and relax. Sit back and relax???? I have truck load of sheep coming in that need to be happy, you boys know what to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doewhacker Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Sit back and relax???? I have truck load of sheep coming in that need to be happy, you boys know what to do. Slave driver, I'll go get my boots ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve863 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Sit back and relax???? I have truck load of sheep coming in that need to be happy, you boys know what to do. No, we don't do such stuff. We hear enough bleating dealing with and servicing our wives. We'll be damned if we want to hear some more. We were wondering why you guys liked to bring in those sheep on occasion, though? I guess we know now. Whatever floats your boat, fellas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachpeaz Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 True Story: I am at my taxidermist dropping off my deer to be mounted (the one in my avatar), and there is a beautiful buck sitting there waitng as well. Much, much bigger than I have ever seen come out of where I hunt in WNY. I asked him about it and he said that it was shot less than 10 miles from where I hunt. I was dumbfounded. Come to find out, the deer escaped the whitetail farm that is a few miles from where I hunt. Got shot during the season and the guy had it mounted. Do I blame the hunter? HELL NO! Who wouldn't shoot it? he had zero idea that the deer had escaped. I do not call into question that Wisconsin buck from last year, because I ASSUME that hunter had good intentions, however, the circumstances are almost identical. A deer in the woods is a deer in the woods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampotter Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 That buck that was shot last year was a farmed deer. It was shot free range, but thats not how it grew that big. The fact that another 240" non-typical comes out of the same area is very suspicious. Almost ALL deer that are fed a special diet to grow that big, grow large non-typical antlers. it is usuallly the first red flag of misdoing. You're kidding right? I hope you don't truly believe this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachpeaz Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 You're kidding right? I hope you don't truly believe this? I'm not claiming any misdoing on the hunter, as I posted a very similar story here in NY. I have a close friend in WI and there were a whole of things swirling around about how that deer was raised. Again, nobody said that it was tied to a tree and shot. I'm just saying that there are circumstances behind that deer even being that big. THEN having TWO deer in consecutive years over 240" in the same area. COME ON! Common sense. Look at the anters. Nothing screems "special diet" like when you see that mass and that many points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 2 big deer like that in the same general area means there are good genetics, and most likely some management going on there. It doesnt mean they were had raised or farm deer necessarily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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