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Too long winded for me to read it all. What I did read though all about passing deer that don't fit your criteria. Personally I hunt because I enjoy it and I like to eat venison. I'll shoot anything legal because I feel accomplished and like meat in the freezer. I passed so many 5pt'ers and smaller bucks during archery because I got "reeled" into the trophy hunter mindset. I quickly realized that eating tag soup for me is just not pleasurable and I'd rather take a 4pter.

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I pretty much pass only yearling bucks on public land and yearling and 2 yr bucks on my private lease and other private land I hunt. I select by age class by aging on the hoof not antlers.

If others choose to pass (and let someone else get a crack) that's fine but I shoot does early and often (as is recommended by QDMA) as long as I have the tags. Only 17% of DMPs get filled according to DEC.

I filled all my antler less and 2 transferred tags, so I went to Ithaca and shot a doe in the Tompkins Deer Management Focus Area. Mmm venison.

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Great post.  Sorry for the rant, lol.  Just feel like I am being pushed to shoot deer but that is not me.  Thanks for the reassurance I will continue to do what I like vs what others think I should do.  I agree as most hunters progress they seem to pass on smaller deer.  One hunting partner is a brown and down hunter but this is only his fourth year and he has not taken one, I will give him a big congrats when he finally gets his first! 

 

Thanks again hope I see that little bucks father tomorrow!  Funny if you asked me 4 years ago if I would be hunting the LI Pine Barrens I would have said your were nuts!  Great woods to get my hunting FIX until next year! 

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I hunt with a groupe of guys who don't shoot does. And look down on anyone who shoots a doe, but I shoot a doe once and a while and could care less what they think. So they don't shoot does and this year no one shot a buck out of 14 huters. So you gussed it I will be back up this weekend trying to shoot a doe. After all it's called hunting and it ends with killing a deer, what ever you choose to shoot aslong as it's legal. I don't shoot fawns or does with fawns try to wait and find a single doe. I don't look down on anyone who hunts as long as it's done ethically and legally.

 

It's been a lot of years since I have felt the need to impress anyone other than myself with my harvest selections. Buck or doe, it's all venison. As far as challenges go, I will say that the only thing that makes a buck a bigger challenge is the fact that there are fewer of them. As far as I know, there have been no studies that claim that bucks are any more intelligent than does.

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It's been a lot of years since I have felt the need to impress anyone other than myself with my harvest selections. Buck or doe, it's all venison. As far as challenges go, I will say that the only thing that makes a buck a bigger challenge is the fact that there are fewer of them. As far as I know, there have been no studies that claim that bucks are any more intelligent than does.

I agree, thanks Doc

You can only shoot what the land has to offer be it bucks or does.

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It's been a lot of years since I have felt the need to impress anyone other than myself with my harvest selections. Buck or doe, it's all venison. As far as challenges go, I will say that the only thing that makes a buck a bigger challenge is the fact that there are fewer of them. As far as I know, there have been no studies that claim that bucks are any more intelligent than does.

 

I have shot bucks that acted pretty stupid and I have seen does act pretty damn smart.

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I have shot bucks that acted pretty stupid and I have seen does act pretty damn smart.

Does like most female mammals are always either eating for 3 or have 2 little ones in tow.

Bucks hide until night and then feed happily. If they are out in daylight it's probably rut so they are acting stupid.

I would say fooling a mature doe with 4 or 6 extra eyes is a bit of a challenge. I'd like to hear a woman's opinion.

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I eat 1 deer a year.  So there is no reason to fill all my tags.   I can't give venison away.   no one wants it.   "it's too gamey" is all I hear, when it's really not gamey at all.   I have 2) tags for 3M which I won't use.    I may go out just to enjoy the day, but not to fill my tags.

Why apply for them if you won't use them?

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Exactly why I fill every one. I have heard of guys reporting fake doe harvests to try to lower dmp #s for the next year.

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I really don['t have a problem with anyone shooting what ever legal deer they choose or NOT shooting what ever deer they choose. BUT I personally know guys who get tags with no intentions of filling them so others can't get them. That I have a problem with.

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I really don['t have a problem with anyone shooting what ever legal deer they choose or NOT shooting what ever deer they choose. BUT I personally know guys who get tags with no intentions of filling them so others can't get them. That I have a problem with.

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One tag is my sons, who went back to college.    The other tag is mine, and this gives me the choice of where I am hunting.    Sometimes 3M, sometimes 3P.   I got a 3P doe, so I won't use my 3M.   I'm not filling tags just to shoot deer.

 

 

Why apply for them if you won't use them?

 

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One tag is my sons, who went back to college. The other tag is mine, and this gives me the choice of where I am hunting. Sometimes 3M, sometimes 3P. I got a 3P doe, so I won't use my 3M. I'm not filling tags just to shoot deer.

I understand hedging your bet with tags from different units. Also I think it's your choice alone to determine how many deer you need to harvest.

Would you transfer your remaining dmp to someone who could legally use it? I don't like guys who buy them with no intention of filling any.

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Again I don't mind that people don't fill all their tags...I don't like the idea of guys trying to manipulate the system to prevent other hunters from legally taking doe that might otherwise be road kill or red tag fodder.

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The DEC probably has some statistically calculated factor for "faked" reports ... lol. You know, one of those things that are based on estimates, and guestimates and other calculated inter-related factors and guessed-at constants that rely on other calculated and guessed-at factors and constants, Sure, they probably throw all that into a pot and stir it all up, chanting some mysterious incantations, and out pops a "Faked Report Factor" to be entered into all the other population statistics.

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