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Not sure I understand your question. If you click on the word "Petition" you can read exactly what you are signing. If you click on the image you can view a video attached to the petition. The text beside the word "Overview" is just that - an overview.

 

If you mean you have not heard about this, I will explain briefly. The DEC , as required by law, opened a public comment period for its mute swan management plan. The DEC had received many commends from people opposed to the plan and decided it would make some changes based on those comments. Before the DEC had a chance to make these revisions, two bills were passed that largely take management authority of mute swans away from the DEC. Those bills are in the hands of the senate and await delivery to the governor any day now. The recess period does NOT mean delivery of the bills will wait until sessions begin again - lawmakers and their staff are still in their offices and the bills can be sent to the governor any day. When the bills reach the governor he has 10 days to either sign or veto them. We are petitioning the governor to VETO these bills. Only the governor can stop these bills or enact them into law at this stage because they have passed both houses.

 

If we stop this law we will be sending a strong message to the NY legislature because only 25 assembly members voted pro DEC. 105 assembly representatives voted anti DEC. NY has 63 senators and every single one of them voted anti DEC. If we can compel the governor to VETO this law we will be sending 168 anti DEC lawmakers a strong message. I spoke to the legislative affairs chief of NY Audubon. He assured me that the governor will indeed ask to the DEC for their side of the story. Our petition will resonate with what the DEC tells the governor. Public support in the form of petition signatures along with the DEC's testimony JUST MIGHT persuade the governor. If it does, we will have defeated the NY anti-hunting community and 168 lawmakers who are hostile toward the DEC and hunting.

 

Please sign the petition and encourage others to also sing it!

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Hey everyone... This page on the website has been updated to include a link to the mute swan petition.

 

  Check it out: http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/mute-swans.html 

     If you haven't already, please sign and share!!! 

 

 

Thank you -to all those who already have signed

 

PS- Thanks Mike for posting the petition,  I have finally joined the forum and hopefully will be able to post some. 

 

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As of Friday evening, the senators still have not sent the bill to the governor, therefore it is very likely we will extend the closing date of this petition, or start a new one. If you have not signed, please do so and ask others to do the same.

 

If we do launch a new petition, and you already have signed the first one, do not sign the new one because both will be forwarded to Albany.

 

For those of you who are not familiar with the nature of this petition: The DEC is being prevented from addressing mute swan issues by legislation prompted by animal rights organizations that has already been approved by lawmakers in both houses. We are asking the governor to VETO the new law and allow the DEC to carryout its science-based management plan for mute swans. Once the lawmakers deliver the bill to the governor, he has up to 10 days to approve or reject it but he is not required to wait 10 days, so his decision can be immediate upon receiving the bill. As of today, lawmakers still have the bill.

 

And, for those of you not familiar with the problem with mute swans, the following video provide a quick overview. Also, if you go to the petition, and click on the arrow you can view a different video which might convince those not convinced by this one:

 

http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/mute-swans.html

 

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Not sure if it helps but I just signed. I figure another signature cant hurt.

 

You bet it certainly does help! The bill is not even delivered yet, so this buys us more time to gather signatures, so keep the line tight. Even if we only get as many as we have, we are still sending this to the governor. Even in the face of over-whelming opposition, a small level of support can influence the outcome. Though I am sure they have flat out lied to me on numerous occasions; I have been told by several lawmakers that on certain issues they have received many letters and petitions from anti-hunters / anti-DEC groups; yet received as few as ZERO contacts from our side! The antis have studied the issues over the years and they know what issues in certain states which are easy prey for them. The hunting community constantly warns about the slippery slope effect and the importance of sticking together; however some issues do not lend themselves at all to a slippery slope and hunters do not stick together. Ironically, this particular issue, which basically tells the DEC they don't make the decisions regarding wildlife, does in fact lend itself extremely well to a slippery slope effect, yet little action has been put in motion by the larger hunting organizations.

 

FYI: The overwhelming support  and swift action Tony Avella received from his fellow lawmakers in passing his mute swan proposal was likely a bipartisan political favor granted in return for his other bill: A bill which extends the term of lawmakers from two years to four years. As Avella is reported to be unbeatable in his district (*) therefore, unlike other lawmakers, he has little fear of voter retaliation, thus is the "hero" doing the self-serving dirty work of other lawmakers who are not as secure in their jobs. (*) Another source, however, has published that the democratic party is fed up with Avella, believes he is too extreme even for them, and desires a different candidate to replace him. So anyone who lives in his district and is a registered democrat can vote in the primary, (if) anyone challenges him for the democratic nomination. Anyone lives in Avella's district  should watch this and keep us apprised.  Or even run for office  and challenge Avella for the democratic nomination!

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You bet it certainly does help! The bill is not even delivered yet, so this buys us more time to gather signatures, so keep the line tight. Even if we only get as many as we have, we are still sending this to the governor. Even in the face of over-whelming opposition, a small level of support can influence the outcome. Though I am sure they have flat out lied to me on numerous occasions; I have been told by several lawmakers that on certain issues they have received many letters and petitions from anti-hunters / anti-DEC groups; yet received as few as ZERO contacts from our side! The antis have studied the issues over the years and they know what issues in certain states which are easy prey for them. The hunting community constantly warns about the slippery slope effect and the importance of sticking together; however some issues do not lend themselves at all to a slippery slope and hunters do not stick together. Ironically, this particular issue, which basically tells the DEC they don't make the decisions regarding wildlife, does in fact lend itself extremely well to a slippery slope effect, yet little action has been put in motion by the larger hunting organizations.

 

FYI: The overwhelming support  and swift action Tony Avella received from his fellow lawmakers in passing his mute swan proposal was likely a bipartisan political favor granted in return for his other bill: A bill which extends the term of lawmakers from two years to four years. As Avella is reported to be unbeatable in his district (*) therefore, unlike other lawmakers, he has little fear of voter retaliation, thus is the "hero" doing the self-serving dirty work of other lawmakers who are not as secure in their jobs. (*) Another source, however, has published that the democratic party is fed up with Avella, believes he is too extreme even for them, and desires a different candidate to replace him. So anyone who lives in his district and is a registered democrat can vote in the primary, (if) anyone challenges him for the democratic nomination. Anyone lives in Avella's district  should watch this and keep us apprised.  Or even run for office  and challenge Avella for the democratic nomination!

 

We did extend the petition, so please sign if you have not and continue to encourage others to also sign it.

 

Also, note the bold above. I left out that this also is in direct contradiction to the idea that lawmakers should have TERM LIMITS! The sporting community wants lawmakers to have less time in office, not double the time between elections! We should be jumping on this as well....

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This is a petition to block a new law which will force the DEC to burn conservation funds (your license money) by requiring them to use the most expensive and least effective ways to manage an invasive species thereby reducing the license money available to the DEC for traditional management and sportsmen's programs.

 

The law has passed both houses but has not yet been signed into law. If sportsmen back the DEC on this issue, the governor will very likely VETO the law and that is what this petition is about.

 

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How many of you are aware of the participation in the New York mute swan issue by two major animal rights organizations from JERSEY?

 

If you read, one of them has the main objective of taking management authority away from state wildlife agencies. We need you guys to sign this petition - right away, the legislation can be sent to the governor any day now.

 

http://susanrussellreport.blogspot.com/

 

http://www.aplnj.org/Legislation.php

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Broads killing zoo animals is important, eh?

 

The antis think it is too and they are using the same petition as us, yet they have over 50,000 signatures. Sign and share our petition asap!

 

Here is the anti's petition:

 

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/881/547/687/shut-down-aaron-neilsons-facebook-kill-page-of-endangered-animals/?z00m=21291141&redirectID=1409131671

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When I submitted public comment on the DEC's draft mute swan management plan, one of my recommendations pertained to the handling of captive mute swans by people who keep them as pets or whatever they keep them for "ornaments"...

 

I postulated that pinioning mute swans and/or allowing persons to own flocks only consisting of one gender was not adequate assurance against recruitment into feral populations because of the potential of hybridization with native swans. North America has two native swan species and both of them do not have robust populations. One very well-known mechanism of extinction is hybridization.

 

Well, it just turns out recently, that Arkansas Fish and Game not only discovered a mute swan paired with a trumpeter swan with a brood of cygnets, but that the mute swan, though not sterilized obviously, was in fact pinioned.

 

I rest my case that pinioning and/or gender segregation alone are not sufficient to prevent captive mute swans from recruiting into free-ranging populations and/or hybridizing with native swans.

 

Read about the Arkansas story and watch a short news video about it:

http://archive.thv11.com/outdoors/article/268873/276/Mute-swan-hybrid-offspring-removed-because-of-threats-to-wildlife

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