Muslim holidays

[The_Field_Ager]

Yet more hate speech:

 

 

 

Good old Southern redneck "Christian" values. The KKK in uniform.

 

http://huntingny.com/forums/topic/26684-potential-hate-crime/?p=365093

 

And here:

 

 

 

You might want to check for fundamentalist Christian zealots too. Any form of extremism is dangerous. Remember Oklahoma city?

 

http://huntingny.com/forums/topic/26266-islamic-influence-on-common-core/?p=357547

[Mr VJP]

Christians are a threat to those who want to live life without values and morals.  The idea of judgement scares the living hell outta them.  Christians are the only group in America calling for accountability in many areas Liberals don't want any.

 

That's where the hatred comes from.

 

[wildcat junkie]

I found this one.  This isn't Christian bigotry?

And is that lumping all Christians into that group?

[The_Field_Ager]

And is that lumping all Christians into that group?

 

 

When you talk about Christian 'values' and Christian 'zealots' in a derogatory fashion, things start to sound a bit lumpy old boy. I would respect you more if you just owned your bigotry, loud n proud.

[wildcat junkie]

 

Wildcat wrote: When you lump all Muslims in with Muslim extremism, that is bringing religion & religious bigotry into the arena.

 

Do I have to point out Christians doing the same sort of things? Would you want to be judged by the actions of Christian extremists?

 

 

http://huntingny.com/forums/topic/26913-muslim-holidays/?p=369199

 

 

Ye, you seem to have a particular pathology about Christianity wild. It comes up time and again for you as one of your chief fears in life. I too will be on the lookout from here on in.

 

Again, your delusion is showing. How does "Would you want to be judged by the actions of Christian extremists?" constitute  some sort of Christian bashing?

[Mr VJP]

We all know in the past you've posted a lot of stuff directly insulting ALL Christians, but in the interest of forgiveness, they were forgotten.  Sure we could go back and expend energy to find them for you, but it wouldn't be productive.

 

But as I promised earlier, when I see you do it in the future, I'll be sure to bring it to your attention.  I'll be happy to do that for you.

 

[Carbonelement]

wcj what is your nationality and religion

[wildcat junkie]

wcj what is your nationality and religion

I am a native born American descending from several generations of the same.. I was raised a Methodist & my religion is Christian but I have grown very weary of people using religion to justify hate.

 

That has tended to make me lean towards Deism which acknowledges the assistance of God & Jesus but in my view, man's "religions" with all the hate & killing in the name of God seem ludicrous to me, regardless of what particular religion that is doing the killing.

 

About 5 generations back, my descendants established a Methodist church in Western PA that was the nucleus of a small village that grew around it. I was raised to believe that tolerance & forgiveness was the way of Christ.

Edited March 8, 2015 by wildcat junkie

[thefinks]

Anyone who wants to believe that pandering to these so called people will remove their bloodlust for anyone who doesn't believe as they do is a BLIND fool. They kill their own families in the name of religion....religion?? Only new Nationwide Holiday especially in our HOME state should be September 11th. So that even the bleeding heart liberals will have to FACE the TRUTH...period. He who forgets is doomed to REPEAT. NEVER FORGET. 9/11.

[wildcat junkie]

Before the monkeys jump on to criticize, I'll admit that tolerance for bigotry isn't my strong suit.

[thefinks]

You don't have to worry about them blowing up your tundra but I Lived through their venom spitting hatred at my front door and I will say it over...NEVER AGAIN.

[thefinks]

I hope you never have to see what my eyes have seen..I have the nightmares for you.

[thefinks]

Goodnight.

[The_Field_Ager]

 I cannot understand Papist's world view on muslims. I sincerely doubt he could find good in any muslim nor live next to one based on his posts. 

 

 

 

It's very simple. Islam (which means submission) does not share our most basic social ideals in terms of how to structure society. Certainly the Islamic way is not the Western way. Combine this with the theologically prescriptive hatred of the kafir or Infidel, vile treatment of women in general and a love of beheading for the most innocuous of crimes, by western standards, and one starts to ask oneself, what is there to be tolerant of here? The answer of course is nothing good.

 

Now, with Islam it is a numbers game. They play by the rules until they are numerically and militarily dominant. Then it is game over for the host country. The rise of the Sunni Caliphate has emboldened Muslims all over Europe to start to kill non-Muslims. We are not getting most of the stories here in the US media.But there is rising violence everywhere. We have already had a few cases here in the US. I predict more.

 

Norway has cottoned on to what is coming. They have started a mass repatriation program of Muslims, and violent crime has been dropping by 30% in some areas. 20 years ago, when I lived in London for a spell, Imams were preaching violent Jihad in the town squares. Police looked on, but this kind of speech was tolerated for some reason.

 

A  New Zealand friend of mine worked with Muslims. They all got on well for the most part, but there were candid moments when they told my buddy that one day Islam would dominate the UK and people like him would have to convert or die. My very laid back and easy going pal was quite astonished at this kind of talk, and not a little disconcerted. He doesn't live there anymore.

 

To answer your question. I would never willingly move in next door to a Muslim. No way.

 

Being a Christian Phade doesn't insulate us from being naive unfortunately. There is a reason why we have all had our own countries historically. It is because certain cultures don't get on, and never will. That's perfectly normal and OK but we still need to maintain our own culture inside our own borders. Europe has committed suicide with it's lefty Utopian polices of come one, come all. Places like Holland and Sweden and Denmark are in real trouble now with their Muslim populations. The enemy is inside the gate. It will be interesting to see if they take a leaf from Norway's book.

 

Liberals have concocted this false idea that we can all live together in brotherly harmony, as long as we ensure that secularism is the glue that binds us. 60 years of secular social engineering may have smothered our own spiritual imperative, but the west is now importing people from parts of the world who are not at all secular or christian in their thinking. It will not end well.

 

Here is the Norway story. The chaos there is the real fruit of liberal, socialist engineering:

 

 

A resident of Olso, Norway named Adrian Stavig said something that Obama never would:

 

“The world’s largest gang of thugs, murderers, and rapists is masquerading as a religion of peace.”

The new Norwegian Prime Minister, Erna Solberg, began a program that deports Muslims who have ties to radical groups and the country’s violent crimes are down more than 31%.

Liberals everywhere are crying “Racism!”

From a local Olso news:

 

A record number of people were deported by Norwegian authorities in October, said government sources.

The National Police Immigration Service Norway (Politiets Utlendingsenhet – PU) deported 824 people in October, which is a new record.

The previous record was set in September, the month prior, when 763 people were deported, reported Dagsavisen.

PU believe some of the reasons for the rise in figures are more resources, more staff and a change of “portfolio priorities”. It has also become easier for Norwegian authorities to deport people back to Afghanistan and Nigeria.

Kristin Kvigne, head of PU, said to Dagsavisen: “This month helps us reach our goal for this year.”

Norway’s government has ruled that 7,100 people will be deported in 2014. At the end of October, PU had deported 5,876 people so far this year.

A percentage of those deported in 2014 were asylum seekers who had their application for continued asylum rejected. They were then deported along with their families. The majority of deportees, however, had committed crimes, or had returned illegally to Norway after being deported.

 

 

http://www.youngcons.com/norway-deports-radical-muslims-look-far-crime-rate-dropped/

Edited March 8, 2015 by Papist

[The_Field_Ager]

As Christianity exits Europe, ‘Criminal Muslims’ fill void with rabid violence

 

 

Consider a brief survey of Scandinavian countries and their cousins.

 

In Norway, Sweden, and Denmark, Imams call for decapitation and/or jail for those who reject Islam, because as immigrants they reject European laws and values.

In Sweden, Muslim immigrants account for 5 percent of its population but commit 77 percent of its crime. Sweden’s “rape crisis” is a direct result of an influx of Muslim “asylum seekers.”

Amnesty International reports that Sweden has the highest number of rapes in Europe and the lowest conviction rate. According to Swedish Public Radio, in Stockholm alone, over 1,000 Swedish women reported that a Muslim immigrant raped them; 300 were under age 15. (One third of those living in Stockholm are immigrants; 24 percent are Muslim). These numbers represent only 25 percent of all rapes in Stockholm because officials claim the majority are unreported. Despite this, the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention and the European Commissioner for Home Affairs “refuse to admit the assailants are Muslim.”

Norway is no stranger to secularism and closed Lutheran churches, although in some regions Catholicism is growing. Crime has also spiked to unprecedented levels so much so that Norway’s jails can’t sustain their increasing overcapacity. Norway’s response: deport criminal Muslims back to where they came from: Nigeria, Afghanistan, Romania, and Morocco.

 

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/29/bethany-blankley-christianity-exits-europe-crimina/?page=all

Edited March 8, 2015 by Papist

[The_Field_Ager]

Before the monkeys jump on to criticize, I'll admit that tolerance for bigotry isn't my strong suit.

 

You must be quite frustrated with yourself in that case.

[phade]

It's very simple. Islam (which means submission) does not share our most basic social ideals in terms of how to structure society. Certainly the Islamic way is not the Western way. Combine this with the theologically prescriptive hatred of the kafir or Infidel, vile treatment of women in general and a love of beheading for the most innocuous of crimes, by western standards, and one starts to ask oneself, what is there to be tolerant of here? The answer of course is nothing good.

Now, with Islam it is a numbers game. They play by the rules until they are numerically and militarily dominant. Then it is game over for the host country. The rise of the Sunni Caliphate has emboldened Muslims all over Europe to start to kill non-Muslims. We are not getting most of the stories here in the US media.But there is rising violence everywhere. We have already had a few cases here in the US. I predict more.

Norway has cottoned on to what is coming. They have started a mass repatriation program of Muslims, and violent crime has been dropping by 30% in some areas. 20 years ago, when I lived in London for a spell, Imams were preaching violent Jihad in the town squares. Police looked on, but this kind of speech was tolerated for some reason.

A New Zealand friend of mine worked with Muslims. They all got on well for the most part, but there were candid moments when they told my buddy that one day Islam would dominate the UK and people like him would have to convert or die. My very laid back and easy going pal was quite astonished at this kind of talk, and not a little disconcerted. He doesn't live there anymore.

To answer your question. I would never willingly move in next door to a Muslim. No way.

Being a Christian Phade doesn't inure against being naive unfortunately. There is a reason why we have all had our own countries historically. It is because certain cultures don't get on, and never will. That's perfectly normal and OK but we still need to maintain our own culture inside our own borders. Europe has committed suicide with it's lefty Utopian polices of come one, come all. Places like Holland and Sweden and Denmark are in real trouble now with their Muslim populations. The enemy is inside the gate. It will be interesting to see if they take a leaf from Norway's book.

Liberals have concocted this false idea that we can all live together in brotherly harmony, as long as we ensure that secularism is the glue that binds us. 60 years of secular social engineering may have smothered our own spiritual imperative, but the west is now importing people from parts of the world who are not at all secular or christian in their thinking. It will not end well.

Here is the Norway story. The chaos there is the real fruit of liberal, socialist engineering:

http://www.youngcons.com/norway-deports-radical-muslims-look-far-crime-rate-dropped/

You only answered one question. I do appreciate the snippets of opinion lost amongst the rest of your personal belief narrative/rationalization. Edited March 8, 2015 by phade

[The_Field_Ager]

You only answered one question.

 

I'll answer the rest when you give me your thoughts on rising Islamic violence in Europe, and the generally negative clash of cultures  we see in places like Holland, Norway, Denmark and Sweden. Would you move into any of these heavily Muslim neighborhoods that even the police don't like to venture into? My guess is that if you are married with daughters, you would not. And I wouldn't blame you for it. It would be simple common sense.

 

Also, what are your thoughts on Norway's repatriation program? Is it good for Norwegian society?

 

Edited March 8, 2015 by Papist

[phade]

I'll answer the rest when you give me your thoughts on rising Islamic violence in Europe, and the generally negative clash of cultures we see in places like Holland, Norway, Denmark and Sweden. Would you move into any of these heavily Muslim neighborhoods that even the police don't like to venture into? My guess is that if you are married with daughters, you would not. And I wouldn't blame you for it. It would be simple common sense.

Also, what are your thoughts on Norway's repatriation program? Is it good for Norwegian society?

Ive lived in Europe amongst muslims. Ive lived next door to them, called them classmate, neighbor, friend, and colleague. The same could be said for hindus and bhuddists. There are bad elements in every crowd. There are also good.

Maybe thats why although I respect your right to hold the beliefs you do, I also know alot of what you say/believe is ignorant. Im not calling you a racist but your words sure could be viewed by many as just that. Your position toward muslims reminds me of those used against jews, blacks, japanese, and every other definitive human definition to exclude, separate, or otherwise be a cover-up for the real trait that is held - hate.

I'll answer the rest when you give me your thoughts on rising Islamic violence in Europe, and the generally negative clash of cultures we see in places like Holland, Norway, Denmark and Sweden. Would you move into any of these heavily Muslim neighborhoods that even the police don't like to venture into? My guess is that if you are married with daughters, you would not. And I wouldn't blame you for it. It would be simple common sense.

Also, what are your thoughts on Norway's repatriation program? Is it good for Norwegian society?

Edited March 8, 2015 by phade

[The_Field_Ager]

Ive lived in Europe amongst muslims.

Maybe thats why although I respect your right to hold the beliefs you do, I also know alot of what you say/believe is ignorant. Im not calling you a racist but your words sure could be viewed by many as just that. Your position toward muslims reminds me of those used against jews, blacks, japanese, and every other definitive human definition to exclude, separate, or otherwise be a cover-up for the real trait that is held - hate.

 

 

I guess the Norwegian authorities are ignorant, hateful and racist then for deporting Muslims specifically.

 

And Islam is not a race Phade. Just need to point that out before you go and make more ignorant suggestions about my views based on a misunderstanding of the meaning of words.

 

I don't like Islam, that makes me a culturalist, not a racist. I am 120% unapologetic on this score. My personal friendships with individual Muslims over the years does not effect this reality at all.

 

Don't think you can ever shame me into taking that statement back or prevent me from further continuing to point out Islams incompatibility and unwillingness to live by Western cultural standards. Your false claims about me are water of a ducks back. Take that to the bank.

 

Your point of argumentation is weak and emotionally based. I have no patience for this kind of 'debate'. It is factless , ignorant and untrue.

Edited March 8, 2015 by Papist

[phade]

I guess the Norwegian authorities are ignorant, hateful and racist then for deporting Muslims specifically.

And Islam is not a race Phade. Just need to point that out before you go and make more ignorant suggestions about my views based on a misunderstanding of the meaning of words.

I don't like Islam, that makes me a culturalist, not a racist. I am 120% unapologetic on this score. My personal friendships with individual Muslims over the years do not effect this reality at all.

Don't think you can ever shame me into taking that statement back or prevent further continuing to point out Islams incompatibility and unwillingness to live by Western cultural standards. Your false claims about me are water of a ducks back.

Your point of argumentation is weak and emotionally based. I have no patience for this kind of 'debate'. It is factless , ignorant and untrue.

Since we got you on the topic, would you live next door to a black person? Have you ever met a black person you believed to be a "good" person?

As far as emotionally based? Wrong. Try Experientally.... Something you DO NOT HAVE.

Edited March 8, 2015 by phade

[The_Field_Ager]

Since we got you on the topic, would you live next door to a black person? Have you ever met a black person you believed to be a "good" person?

 

You mean, since you derailed this topic and turned it into race baiting? lol

 

Tell me Phade, is this imaginary Black person a Catholic or a Muslim?

 

And this might blow your hair back, but when I lived in London I was engaged to a Black girl of Nigerian descent. She was Catholic, we shared a culture. There was no problem. Hows that for experience?

 

You are behaving like a real dimwit now you know you have gone down the wrong pathway on this

Edited March 8, 2015 by Papist

[Dom]

As much as I would like to comment on these topic's I cannot.I was kicked out of political debate's in school for the same reason's i see on here.Opinion's is your/our choice.Anyone legally here can celabrate their holliday do we have to put on our callender no.We were once the most powerfull country even without a monetary vallue now our money is shit/worth notta.I don't see any difference in any culltur comming here to have a better life for their family.Our great land is the mixes of all humans/

[phade]

You mean, since you derailed this topic and turned into race baiting? lol

Tell me Phade, is this imaginary Black person a Catholic or a Muslim?

And this might blow your hair back, but when I lived in London I was engaged to a Black girl of Nigerian descent. She was Catholic, we shared a culture. There was no problem.

You are behaving like a real dimwit now who knows he is on to a loser.

Interesting. I bet her parents were disappointed at the onset and excited at the sunset. Edited March 8, 2015 by phade

[The_Field_Ager]

.Our great land is the mixes of all humans/

 

Neither the people of Ferguson or most native tribes would subscribe to this view. Things are way more complicated.