nyantler Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 The Wheeler Buck Story is up on my site for those interested www.nyantler-outdoors.com This buck had 31 inches of deductions and still scored 150... If not for the badly damaged right antler this might have challenged the Roosevelt Luckey Buck for the all-time typical record for NYS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 great story and great buck Joe. I am glad you have these articles. They make for grat reading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleitten04 Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Wow what a deer. Could you imagine if this was 3 years later and if it was a world record lol. I know I'm getting off topic but man it would be so cool if the World Record was from NY. All those southerners would be in awww lol. Congrats to the hunter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyantler Posted December 15, 2010 Author Share Posted December 15, 2010 Not sure if you ever read about the Roosevelt Luckey Buck sheds found the year before the Luckey Buck was killed in 1939. If he was killed the year before he would have beaten the Jordan Buck as largest typical in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleitten04 Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Wow thats amazing I though the Hanson buck was the largest typical? Do you have a link to the story or a link to where all the records are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyantler Posted December 15, 2010 Author Share Posted December 15, 2010 It is, but the Jordan Buck was until about 10 years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyantler Posted December 16, 2010 Author Share Posted December 16, 2010 Here is the picture of the Roosevelt Lucky Sheds found in 1939 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno C Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 cool website! i like it and yeah culver for making your story in it! lol good stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNY Bowhunter Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Nice article. There's no way that this buck was only 2.5 years old. Last years shed scores 58 5/8 with an additional 2" or so of the mainbeam broken off. So lets say it scored 60 inches...60 x 2 + 16 (est. inside spread) = 136 gross. Ain't no way a free ranging NY deer is gonna score that as a yearling. He was at least 3.5 and more likely 4.5 years old... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troutman Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Great story . There's no way that this buck was only 2.5 years old. Last years shed scores 58 5/8 with an additional 2" or so of the mainbeam broken off. So lets say it scored 60 inches...60 x 2 + 16 (est. inside spread) = 136 gross. Ain't no way a free ranging NY deer is gonna score that as a yearling. He was at least 3.5 and more likely 4.5 years old... I have to agree, not impossible in captivity but in the wild? While tooth aging is a good indicator, not every deer is going to have the same wear on its teeth based on diet. A deer predominately browsing on buds, twigs and acorns is going to have much more wear than one with a diet of softer leafy vegetation etc. Also a buck on a good dental program may have stronger teeth that don't wear as much... ;D Anyone know what the deer weighed. This is another indicator that might help get an idea of age. I think most 1.5 yr old bucks dress out at 100-120lbs, 2,5 yr olds 130-150lbs, 3.5 yr olds. 160-180 lbs. and it usually takes a 4.5 to 5.5 yr old to break 200 lbs. Once again this can vary depending on diet and range.... Others thought on the age of this deer? I have to admit that is the one thing that bothered me about the story. Hate to be a doubting Thomas.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNY Bowhunter Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 He was 200# live weight. As I mentioned, I've actually had my hands on this deer and got to say that it was one of the most run-down looking bucks that I've ever seen. I don't believe that he was 6 or 7 years old, but was certainly older than 2.5... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 I would say 4.5 maybe even 3.5 the bases do not look huge. No way he is 2.5 and those sheds from last year 1.5!! A weight and more pics of the whole deer would help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNY Bowhunter Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 I would say 4.5 maybe even 3.5 the bases do not look huge. No way he is 2.5 and those sheds from last year 1.5!! A weight and more pics of the whole deer would help. His bases were not very big compared to the rest of the rack. The first mass measurement between the burr and G1 was only 4 inches. The same measurement on the shed was 3 4/8". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNY Bowhunter Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Here are three sheds for comparison. The one from the buck in this thread scored 58 5/8" with a 19 1/8" mainbeam (the tip was broken off). The other two are from a yearling buck and a 2.5 year old buck from the same area. Is it possible that this deer was only 2.5 last year, making him a gigantic 3.5 year old this year? It seems impossible to me, I'm thinking that he was more likely a 4.5 year old deer. There was a ton of standing corn all through the winter on this property so the deer had access to it through the worst of the weather. There's a big alfalfa field across the road that was cut and "freshened" 5 or 6 times this summer and last year's cornfields were put into soybeans this spring. Beans have never been planted here before that I know of. He was eating well so I guess that this could explain some of the huge jump in antler size that he had... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 well I don't care if he ws 2.5/3.5/4.5...that is one impressive rack and a trophy in anyones book. If he was only 2.5 or 3.5 I hope he passed on a PILE of his genes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNY Bowhunter Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 The only 100% accurate comment that I've heard reguarding this deer's age came from my dad. He said that he knew exactly how old it was...as old as he's gonna get. Can't argue with that one...lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNY Bowhunter Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Stopped by the bowshop today and checked out the buck's jaws. Tom (the hunter) and Steve (bowshop owner) plan on having them sent out to be cementum annuli tested. The back molar shows some definate wear, he's older than 2.5 for sure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First-light Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 That's wild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Those crowns on the molars are pretty sharply crowned. I think this buck was on a pretty soft diet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyantler Posted December 16, 2010 Author Share Posted December 16, 2010 I didn't want to burst Tom's bubble but i knew it wasn't 2.5 years old right off...I'm guessing it comes back at 4.5 or better. No 2.5 year old can grow that kind of body and rack in 2.5 years. Just not biologically possible. But, Man! What a buck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyantler Posted December 16, 2010 Author Share Posted December 16, 2010 The diet probably is the reason that he doesn't have much wear... I don't know what he was eating, but I'd like to plant some off it where I hunt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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