helmut in the bush Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 http://fox8.com/2017/10/09/wayne-county-family-looking-for-answers-after-labrador-is-found-shot-with-arrow/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 whats to justify? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent death Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 There is no justification needed....some ass hole shot the dog and should face jail time for it will that happen who knows but I can guarantee it is not gonna help the public view of hunters cause we will be blamed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) Weird angle tho. Exit is higher than entry. Shooter must have been way down hill. Edited October 10, 2017 by Papist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moog5050 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Field point? This didn't happen while someone was hunting. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYBowhunter Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Good thing the jerk used a fieldpoint, outcome would have been much different with a broadhead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Just now, moog5050 said: Field point? This didn't happen while someone was hunting. My guess is the dog passed someone practicing, at elevation, and presented a new target opportunity. There is a slim outside chance it was a stray arrow from a practice session....very slim. I often worry my cats are hiding in the brush behind my target Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny hunter Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 I would love to meet the low life.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent death Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, moog5050 said: Field point? This didn't happen while someone was hunting. True but when people use guns to shoot people gun owners and hunters suffer same goes for this kind of crap ...hunters will be blamed... Edited October 10, 2017 by silent death Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 7 minutes ago, silent death said: True but when people use guns to shoot people gun owners and hunters suffer same goes for this kind of crap ...hunters will be blamed... Hunters are not blamed for shootings that arent hunting related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent death Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, WNYBuckHunter said: Hunters are not blamed for shootings that arent hunting related. Truth but if u look at it that way then why are gun owners and hunters suffering from crimes committed with a gun Edited October 10, 2017 by silent death Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownclown Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 isnt it legal to shoot a dog if it harassing game? Not that in way i support the idea. I'm a HUGE dog lover and would be pissed if my hunt was ruined by a dog chasing deer but could never conceive of doing this. And if i was the owner the person better hope i dont find them. good points brought up here already with tht eangle of shot and feild point use. bet this was a dog hating neighbor tired of the dealing with the "malfunctioning" invisible fence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, silent death said: Ahh but they are...because Everytime a shooting happens it is normally a semi auto weapon which most hunters use so they blame the gun not the person behind it....look what you tube is doin it is censoring all gun instructional videos now Hunters may pay the price, but they arent blamed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, brownclown said: isnt it legal to shoot a dog if it harassing game? Not that in way i support the idea. I'm a HUGE dog lover and would be pissed if my hunt was ruined by a dog chasing deer but could never conceive of doing this. And if i was the owner the person better hope i dont find them. good points brought up here already with tht eangle of shot and feild point use. bet this was a dog hating neighbor tired of the dealing with the "malfunctioning" invisible fence. no 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownclown Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 13 minutes ago, WNYBuckHunter said: no you are right only "law enforcement" can. Us regular folk can only kill cats 1. Any person over the age of twenty-one years possessing a hunting license may, and environmental conservation officers and peace officers, acting pursuant to their special duties, or police officers shall humanely destroy cats at large found hunting or killing any protected wild bird or with a dead bird of any protected species in its possession. 2. Every environmental conservation officer, forest ranger and member of the state police may kill any dog (a) pursuing or killing deer within the Adirondack or Catskill parks, at any time; (b) pursuing or killing any game or wildlife on a state-owned game farm or wildlife refuge; or (c) pursuing or killing any game or wildlife on a state-owned or leased wildlife management area, except a dog being legally used for hunting small game or for dog training. 3. Every park patrolman, park ranger and member of the state police, county police and town police may kill any dog pursuing or killing deer within any state park or state park reservation at any time. 4. At any time (a) any environmental conservation officer, dog warden, forest ranger or member of the state police, anywhere in the state, (b) any member of any town police within the limits of the town of which such member is an officer, (c) any member of the Westchester County Parkway police on any park, parkway or reservation owned or controlled by the county of Westchester or (d) any member of a police force or department of any county, city, town or village in which such member has jurisdiction and is regularly employed may kill any dog pursuing or killing deer and any coyote killing a domestic animal. 5. No action for damages shall lie against any authorized person for the killing of a cat, dog or coyote as provided in this section. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moog5050 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Just speculating but: someone is practicing and neighbors dog who isn't well behaved comes into practice range. Shooter intends to scare dog off by shooting at ground in front of him and it ricochets up and into dog. Wrong no matter what but hoping someone wasn't so cruel to shoot the dog intentionally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Seriously justify what...CLEARLY a field point,up hill angle...I'm thinking a budding serial kill who's parents are in denial...because kids aren't responsible for their actions these days. They got him a bow and arrows to keep his hands busy. But hey blame a hunter.... that's what makes you feel all warm and fuzzy...but if you live in the area....watch your back...he'll tire of dogs eventually.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chas0218 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Not sure about Ohio but NY it is not legal to shoot a dog. You can shoot a cat if it is pursuing/harassing/killing protected song birds (a.k.a. all non-game birds.) 34 minutes ago, brownclown said: isnt it legal to shoot a dog if it harassing game? Not that in way i support the idea. I'm a HUGE dog lover and would be pissed if my hunt was ruined by a dog chasing deer but could never conceive of doing this. And if i was the owner the person better hope i dont find them. good points brought up here already with tht eangle of shot and feild point use. bet this was a dog hating neighbor tired of the dealing with the "malfunctioning" invisible fence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) Is it me or does the arrow look short, like from a crossbow? If someone were lying prone, that might explain the angle Edited October 10, 2017 by Papist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Crossbow arrows are generally 20 or 22 inches. That arrow looks longer than that. If you could see the nock it would tell you for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent death Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) Not a crossbow bolt ...did a Google search there's a pic of it but I can't upload it I'll post the link Edited October 10, 2017 by silent death Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent death Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.ohio.com/akron/news/breaking-news-news/police-seek-person-who-shot-wayne-county-dog-with-arrow&ved=0ahUKEwjRh73ZzebWAhWd2YMKHaKjB-sQxfQBCCkwAQ&usg=AOvVaw3LEIhwdrdQX0YHyNzAX3gy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) BTW doesn't all the invisible fence manufactures state, I'd assume many many times in their paper work, that it isn't infallible. That you still need to be a responsible dog owner...Didn't he say they were at work? Doesn't the fur under the collar need trimming often for a connection so diligent is required?... No blame here just questions. Edited October 10, 2017 by growalot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 14 minutes ago, WNYBuckHunter said: Crossbow arrows are generally 20 or 22 inches. That arrow looks longer than that. If you could see the nock it would tell you for sure. Beman ICS Hunter Classic Arrows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 I use the ICS Hunter Patriots. Great arrows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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