fasteddie Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Ted Nugent proves to Alex Jones that a shotgun is more deadly than an AR-15 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Lucky Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 True, however could be used as propaganda to ban some ammo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachunter Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 The shotgun is my gun of chose for home defense 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) The semi-autos are just the tip of the spear. They want all guns out of the hands of the people. That is the end-game. This video will be used as evidence for banning shotguns at some future date. Watch this space. Edited March 7, 2018 by Papist 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattler Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Maybe this information will prove to the people who don't own, or support AR-15 ownership, that the anti-gun loons will not stop with black guns if they succeed with their desire to ban them. All semis and pumps, long gun and handgun, will be next on the "ban wagon". This model is what Australia did and the American antis are simply following what worked there. They are not too clever or imaginative, but they are determined. Like Ted said, we need 50 Million NRA members to turn this bull shot around. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robhuntandfish Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Only problem is Alex Jones is a crackpot. Uncle Ted is a bit weird but def like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattler Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Open minded, intelligent people can look past the messenger and still see the message. It matters not who says it, if it is truth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robhuntandfish Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) agreed but this guys credibility is in the can . He makes any message look unbelievable and these days gotta hunt for those open minded intelligent people cause they are a bit scarce. Its like if Kim Yun said he is open to nuclear reduction talks with the US ......lol wait that just happened too. Edited March 7, 2018 by Robhuntandfish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airedale Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) Nothing more effective than a shotgun firing buck shot in close quarters. The US Army used Winchester pumps loaded with Buck Shot in WW1, they were nicknamed "Trench Sweepers" for good reason. Devastating firepower caused fearsome casualties enough so for the German government to protest their use. A nut case that was skilled in operation cutting loose in a crowded school hallway with an extended tube magazine autoloading or pump shotgun would make an AR rifle look puny in relation as far as mowing down numbers of people. Al Edited March 7, 2018 by airedale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robhuntandfish Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 18 hours ago, Papist said: The semi-autos are just the tip of the spear. They want all guns out of the hands of the people. That is the end-game. This video will be used as evidence for banning shotguns at some future date. Watch this space. Shhhhhhh........ dont tell anyone. I dont want to lose my shotguns...... I love them....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
left field Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) Imagine a reporter for CNN holding up a shotshell and saying, "every time I pull the trigger once with that round it's like thirty people shooting ... thirty bullets come out of there ... thirty rounds come out of there." So the argument is, "Hey guys, don't ban the AR, there are other guns capable of far more damage." Nugent is an idiot and Jones needs a throat lozenge. Edited March 7, 2018 by left field 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steuben Jerry Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 I like Ted, seen him countless times in concert and paid to hear him speak at a gun show in Caledonia once. But I really wish he'd stand down on the boisterous pro-gun stuff. He makes me cringe sometimes. This is one of those times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airedale Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, left field said: Imagine a reporter for CNN holding up a shotshell and saying, "every time I pull the trigger once with that round it's like thirty people shooting ... thirty bullets come out of there ... thirty rounds come out of there." So the argument is, "Hey guys, don't ban the AR, there are other guns capable of far more damage." Wolf Blitzer or Ted Nugent making the video who cares, I am a fan of neither but there is a point being made for those who think that if AR weapons were eliminated from the face of the earth all will be fine. The argument the video is making is that banning AR firearms will not make any difference when it comes to mass school shootings, the nut cases that want to pull off these acts will just use another weapon. The fact of the matter is there are plenty of other weapons just as lethal as ARs and some even more so and far more common and easier to come by. This school mass shooting business is a social-cultural problem that has come about in recent times. There are way too many people walking the streets that should be locked up and the key thrown away. Al Edited March 7, 2018 by airedale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Robhuntandfish said: agreed but this guys credibility is in the can . Not really. He has viewership numbers that CNN can only dream of...which is why CNN is currently pushing to have his youtube account shut down. https://www.infowars.com/this-is-why-cnn-hates-infowars/ Edited March 8, 2018 by Papist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rattler Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Anyone who believes the gun banners don't already know what Ted is saying here is deluding themself. They know full well what shotguns can do. But they don't want all of the shotgun owners getting up in arms (no pun intended) about losing their semis and pumps at this point. First they ban the semi auto "military" type guns, then they ban ALL semi auto rifles, then they come for ALL semi auto firearms that are left, including handguns, then they come for the pump actions, then they come for the lever actions. It's all been planned a long time ago. It's an agenda. Whoever called Ted an idiot has probably never seen the man in a debate with gun banners. The man is an expert on the 2nd Amendment, the Constitution and our representative form of government. He can hold his own with the best the antis can throw at him. He just likes to use a sledgehammer to make sure the point is driven home with extreme prejudice. Some don't like that style, some do. But it sure as hell is effective in getting his word out there. The antis can't resist airing everything he says, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. One thing Ted didn't show in that video is how easily you can shoot 30 rounds out of a shotgun, especially a pump gun, by simply shooting till empty, opening the bolt, reaching in your right pocket, grabbing a round and putting it in the empty loading port, slamming the bolt home and pulling the trigger. Then just keep repeating that sequence until you are out of ammo. If you don't think that can be very fast, try it sometime. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robhuntandfish Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Papist said: Not really. He has viewership numbers that CNN can only dream of...which is why CNN is currently pushing to have his youtube account shut down. https://www.infowars.com/this-is-why-cnn-hates-infowars/ He's a nut job x10. He's the dude that thinks Sandy Hook was staged and that the govt is making juice boxes to make kids homosexual. Among a bunch of other things. You don't want this idiot on ypur side against gun control. Or for anything else for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Yes indeed. The argument about which guns are more lethal than others is utterly pointless in light of the end goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Robhuntandfish said: He's a nut job x10. He's the dude that thinks Sandy Hook was staged and that the govt is making juice boxes to make kids homosexual. Among a bunch of other things. You don't want this idiot on ypur side against gun control. Or for anything else for that matter. His huge viewership would indicate his credibility is doing fine, unless you have some other metric by which to measure things? Edited March 8, 2018 by Papist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Robhuntandfish said: juice boxes to make kids homosexual. Plenty of academic studies on hormone disruptors in every day objects. You doubt this? Maybe New Scientist can change your mind? https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn7440-gender-bending-chemicals-found-to-feminise-boys/ Edited March 8, 2018 by Papist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robhuntandfish Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, Papist said: Plenty of academic studies on hormone disruptors in every day objects. You doubt this? Maybe New Scientist can change your mind? https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn7440-gender-bending-chemicals-found-to-feminise-boys/ Can't argue nuts with a chipmunk.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) Just now, Robhuntandfish said: Can't argue nuts with a chipmunk.... That's one way of running from the facts I suppose I guess the EU finds Jones credible: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/jun/16/eu-moves-to-restrict-hormone-disrupting-chemical-found-in-plastics Edited March 8, 2018 by Papist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robhuntandfish Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Papist said: That's one way of running from the facts I suppose Facts.....right. maybe Maukaly Caulkin was one of the actors at Sandy hook. Maybe pizza gate was true Maybe Obama is the secret head of Isis that only he knows about. Maybe Glenn Beck is a secret cia operative Maybe the govt is making frogs gay Maybe the govt controls the weather and never landed on the moon. Maybe You two are mixing your Kool aid with the same white powder but it isn't sugar. Ahhh theres the truth..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Just now, Robhuntandfish said: Facts.....right. maybe Maukaly Caulkin was one of the actors at Sandy hook. Maybe pizza gate was true Maybe Obama is the secret head of Isis that only he knows about. Maybe Glenn Beck is a secret cia operative Maybe the govt is making frogs gay Maybe the govt controls the weather and never landed on the moon. Maybe You two are mixing your Kool aid with the same white powder but it isn't sugar. Ahhh theres the truth..... I believe this is called dissembling. How about a link to the infamous Juice box story so we can examine the details that upset you ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robhuntandfish Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Just now, Papist said: I believe this is called dissembling. How about a link to the infamous Juice box story so we can examine the details that upset you ? So your not denying these are all his crazy rantings.... And several of them he had to rescind, apologize or pay for.... Doesn't upset me a bit that he's nuts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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