Chef Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 So I live in 3r rockland county. This is a shotgun only county. Most of the towns have discharge ordinances which make most of the county bow only. I just came into a place to hunt next year In the county that would offer me more than enough space to hunt with a fire arm. Of course that town has a discharge ordinance. I read it and it says no discharge of a fire arm. If I am correct under both New York and federal law a muzzleloader is not a fire arm. Is it worth pushing the boundaries. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NockednLoaded Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Chef said: So I live in 3r rockland county. This is a shotgun only county. Most of the towns have discharge ordinances which make most of the county bow only. I just came into a place to hunt next year In the county that would offer me more than enough space to hunt with a fire arm. Of course that town has a discharge ordinance. I read it and it says no discharge of a fire arm. If I am correct under both New York and federal law a muzzleloader is not a fire arm. Is it worth pushing the boundaries. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Did they not revise law? I know they blocked felons from owning a muzzleloader. I bet it's one of those left to discretion of law enforcment to interpret it , but maybe worth asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crappyice Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I was asked to remove some coyotes from Rockland a few years back after one ate my friend’s dog from his backyard. He has a nice property on top of hill with only one neighbor and I still wouldn’t shoot a gun of any type up there. Actually I had a PO question why I was wearing camo up there when I was getting ready for an evening bow hunt. Any shot you fire (regardless of legality) will have a PO response Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crappyice Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 That being said, I say go for it AFTER you get in WRITING permission from some town official Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob-c Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Why take a chance ? If your not interested in a vertical bow buy a crossbow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 Why take a chance ? If your not interested in a vertical bow buy a crossbow. I bow hunt and own a cross bow I’m just curious. Especially because the only penalty is a $200 fine Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYBowhunter Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 14 minutes ago, Chef said: I bow hunt and own a cross bow I’m just curious. Especially because the only penalty is a $200 fine Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I would find it very hard to believe that if a PO deemed your ML to be a firearm that only $200 fine would come of ithat. It could potentially lead to your arrest and seizure of the ML. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 I would find it very hard to believe that if a PO deemed your ML to be a firearm that only $200 fine would come of ithat. It could potentially lead to your arrest and seizure of the ML.I just read a little further they can also put you in jail for a term not to exceed 15 days lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYBowhunter Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, Chef said: I just read a little further they can also put you in jail for a term not to exceed 15 days lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Lol.. I figured that much, not worth it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob-c Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 27 minutes ago, Chef said: I bow hunt and own a cross bow I’m just curious. Especially because the only penalty is a $200 fine Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Only a $200 fine ? I can think of 20 other things I would rather spend $200 on. And shooting a deer isn’t worth it in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 Only a $200 fine ? I can think of 20 other things I would rather spend $200 on. And shooting a deer isn’t worth it in my opinion. I bet money invested you are way over 200 per deer Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Why not just check with the local authorities ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 Why not just check with the local authorities ? I will, but sometimes it’s just easier to play dumb Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Do you think that it's easier to ask for Forgiveness , than to ask for Permission ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob-c Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Chef said: I bet money invested you are way over 200 per deer Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I bet you are 100% right. Let me rephrase. it’s not worth taking a deer that may be deemed illegal. When there’s legal options. Edited January 6, 2020 by rob-c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hueyjazz Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Well get this one. The Town of Pittsford considers a bow and X-bow as a firearm. Now that defies logic. Town next to it, Penfield does not. Feet makes the difference between legal and illegal Local municipality can make more stringent rules than State or Federal requirements but not less stringent. I would check with town for definition and get it in writing so when you get visit from law enforcement you got the goods. Don't expect police to know nuances of the law Only thing bucking this trend is pot. Go figure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 Do you think that it's easier to ask for Forgiveness , than to ask for Permission ? In most situations yes. Don’t worry I will only be bow hunting here just thought this might make a fun off season thread Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Not worried . Just having fun . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I knew Rockland was shotgun like Putnam but never knew towns block you from using shotgun. I never hunted Rockland but when I go to the sportsman show in suffern it seems like I drove past a lot of woods Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny hunter Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 what town are you asking about....I grew up in Rockland.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 what town are you asking about....I grew up in Rockland..Clarkstown Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny hunter Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I am not sure I would hunt unless I talked to the PD first........There is NO WAY you could use a shotgun .....Thats out of the question...I do know guys bow hunt up on Hi Tor MTN......Some real monsters up there...I can make a few phone calls tommorrow..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 I am not sure I would hunt unless I talked to the PD first........There is NO WAY you could use a shotgun .....Thats out of the question...I do know guys bow hunt up on Hi Tor MTN......Some real monsters up there...I can make a few phone calls tommorrow.....Not trying to put too much in public but the place I’m taking about is I’m that general area though not in the park or actually on the mountain Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkeyfeathers Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Chef said: I just read a little further they can also put you in jail for a term not to exceed 15 days lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Bake yourself a nice cake with a file in it beforehand then hunt ?! Have friend deliver to jail after incarceration. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny hunter Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, Chef said: Not trying to put too much in public but the place I’m taking about is I’m that general area though not in the park or actually on the mountain Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk No problem...I well try to find out more for you.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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