Foggy Mountain Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Just offering to help. Many guys are sure they understand the right way so I understand. Sometimes there’s things we don’t know though. Stance, Shoulder position, elbow position, grip, draw, release, follow through is consistent among all bows or would be best if it was. Incorrect grip leads to string slap as well. I’m glad you’re good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamp_bucks Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 26 minutes ago, Foggy Mountain said: Just offering to help. Many guys are sure they understand the right way so I understand. Sometimes there’s things we don’t know though. Stance, Shoulder position, elbow position, grip, draw, release, follow through is consistent among all bows or would be best if it was. Incorrect grip leads to string slap as well. I’m glad you’re good. Follow through is my biggest down fall. I know when I'm not doing it realized I shoot to the left when I don't follow through. Makes a big difference with my thumb release. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foggy Mountain Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Look up archery learning center. George Ryal has a very interesting way of using the thumb release. It’s using proper back tension and you fire it like a hinge. You’ll not know exactly when it’s firing, the back tension results in follow through. A string bow if you know what that is can help practice form. Remember an arrow stays with the string a long time. Further than you think. Any deviation in form can result in misses. Your hand should wind up near your shoulder upon release. You’re pushing your elbow back, not pulling the string. Imaginr you’re on a school bus and someone is pushing your elbow. You push back. Once they are gone your follow through naturally occurs. I’ll see if I can find a Clay Hayes video about that. Seeing it may help you visualize. He’s a styk guy but follow through is follow through. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foggy Mountain Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 See if this helps you understand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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moog5050 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 12 minutes ago, Foggy Mountain said: See if this helps you understand That’s a really good explanation. Better than most I have seen or read. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moog5050 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 29 minutes ago, Foggy Mountain said: Imaginr you’re on a school bus and someone is pushing your elbow. You push back. Once they are gone your follow through naturally occurs. Best tip I have heard for anyone to achieve back tension and feel it. Push the elbow back don’t pull the string. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamp_bucks Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 57 minutes ago, Foggy Mountain said: See if this helps you understand Good video. Next year my biggest adjustment is getting better at back tension. when I feel like I'm doing it right my shots are good but it's at that point I still think about it and it hasn't become second nature. Thanks for the video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foggy Mountain Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 No problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Foggy Mountain said: Look up archery learning center. George Ryal has a very interesting way of using the thumb release. It’s using proper back tension and you fire it like a hinge. You’ll not know exactly when it’s firing, the back tension results in follow through. A string bow if you know what that is can help practice form. Remember an arrow stays with the string a long time. Further than you think. Any deviation in form can result in misses. Your hand should wind up near your shoulder upon release. You’re pushing your elbow back, not pulling the string. Imaginr you’re on a school bus and someone is pushing your elbow. You push back. Once they are gone your follow through naturally occurs. I’ll see if I can find a Clay Hayes video about that. Seeing it may help you visualize. He’s a styk guy but follow through is follow through. That guy is GRIV on archery talk right? When he posts I listen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Foggy Mountain said: I tried a couple hinges and liked them but decided to stick with the release I hunt with. The nice thing is you can buy them and sell them without losing much more than shipping. I had a Stan Micro and a Black Pearl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foggy Mountain Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 He’s a top instructor. Very good. I’ve got some Stans but I like Carter a little better. My daughter still shoots a carter. I havent shot a wheel bow in a few years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foggy Mountain Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, The_Real_TCIII said: That guy is GRIV on archery talk right? When he posts I listen I’m not sure I don’t ever go on that sight. Too much bickering 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Just now, Foggy Mountain said: I’m not sure I don’t ever go on that sight. Too much bickering Youre going to love it here... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 i don't shoot as many arrows but i shoot every other day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 it's funny everyone talks about hinges, index triggers, and thumb triggers. very few people shoot a true back tension/resistance activated release. both carter and stan make them. i'm sure there must be others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamoke Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 I’ll shoot a few arrows before I go out for the first time and do well. Also, use both eyes.....Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlammerhirt Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 it's funny everyone talks about hinges, index triggers, and thumb triggers. very few people shoot a true back tension/resistance activated release. both carter and stan make them. i'm sure there must be others.That's because to the common archer they are scary and dangerous. They take time and practice. Half the people shooting a bow are worrying about a 1000 things already....than throw a hinge into the mix and people run like crazy. My goal for this winter is to work with a hinge release for 3d..... currently shooting a thumb release but wanna progress to a true hinge.Sent from my moto z3 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 5 hours ago, mlammerhirt said: That's because to the common archer they are scary and dangerous. They take time and practice. Half the people shooting a bow are worrying about a 1000 things already....than throw a hinge into the mix and people run like crazy. My goal for this winter is to work with a hinge release for 3d..... currently shooting a thumb release but wanna progress to a true hinge. Sent from my moto z3 using Tapatalk You wont find it to be difficult at all. A friend has a tension release and thats a bit scary. Im not interested in it because I dont want two drastically different release methods from 3D to hunting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 You wont find it to be difficult at all. A friend has a tension release and thats a bit scary. Im not interested in it because I dont want two drastically different release methods from 3D to huntingAgreed. I could definitely hunt with a hinge. Tension/resistance activated release is whole different though. Still set at weight that's about 5 lbs heavier than holding weight. Still after you let that button safety off anything can happen if you give it a tug harder into the back wall for whatever reason (i.e. wind gusts, bow taking off on ya, etc).Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidonyx Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 New to archery this year, bought my 1st bow just about four weeks ago. I’ve been shooting daily from different positions around the yard. I’ve been breaking my “sessions” into group of 12-15 shots per session, no more that 36 shots in a day. At first I was grouping all those shots at once cause I really enjoyed shoot, but noticed that I would shoot beyond fatigue, and get sloppy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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