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[Paula]

"If guns cause crime, all of mine are defective." -Ted Nugent

[Fishin Magician]

nothin like a little fuel on the fire huh......paula

[Paula]

Me? never!

[virgil]

Right. And nuclear weapons don't cause nuclear war, right? So, what's all the fuss about Iran for?

[Grouse]

Nukes don't cause war. Been tons of them around for decades and they haven't started a war yet. They did finish one though. Somebody has to want to use them to start a war. Iran wants to use them. Hope that helps.

[virgil]

So, it's okay to 'control' certain types of weapons if you feel that the owner or potential owner of those weapons has dangerous intentions? Is that right?

[WNYBuckHunter]

A nuclear weapon that has the capability to kill millions in one instant is completely different than any gun. Also you are trying to compare those with murderous intentions with law abiding citizens. Apples and oranges virgil.

[sfuller003]

I have yet to hear of a perfectly working Gun going off and killing anyone...that is without Human intervention. jmho

[Early]

As Red would say, "Now just ast yourself....Would you want the whacko looking guy in the picture introducing this thread to represent you and/or the legitimate rights of all gunowners?....Just ast yourself!"

[hunterman7956]

Why not ask the N.R.A and and see how they feel ? I think his quote is quite good ....

[hunterman7956]

His picture ..Well thats another thing to deal with ..LOL,

[Grouse]

So, it's okay to 'control' certain types of weapons if you feel that the owner or potential owner of those weapons has dangerous intentions? Is that right?

No. It's OK to control certain owners who have proven, and proof is the key, to have dangerous intentions. The object of control is the owner who has declared dangerous intentions and wants nuclear weapons. Stating you wish to use nukes to attack another country and wipe it off the face of the earth, rather than have them purely for self defense, is grounds for control by the rest of the world.

[Deerthug]

Here we go again . . . Didn't we already have a 9 page thread on Ted???

[Geno C]

guns dont kill people, people kill people... its funny how violent the human race is. NO OTHER species in existence kills their own like we do...

[virgil]

Iran has denied even working toward building a nuclear bomb. When did they make threats to blow another country off the map with one?

[Grouse]

Multiple times in the past they have declared their intention to annilate Israel. It is something they have vowed for years. If they get a nuke, it will give them the power to accomplish what they have vowed to do for years.

[landtracdeerhunter]

Any country that threatens another to wipe them off the face of the earth, doesn't need nuclear power or weapons. It's time to count our losses in Afganastan, pull out, and step up to the plate with Israel. Obama, be a commander and chief, take a stand!

Edited March 13, 2012 by landtracdeerhunter

[virgil]

So, if some yahoo says he wants to overthrow the US government, would you restrict his second ammendment rights because he exercised his first ammendment right to free speech?

[Grouse]

If you look on the form you fill out when you buy a gun, there is a question asking if you belong to a group that wants to overthrow the government, or have you ever vowed to do so, answer yes or no. A "yes" answer disqualifies you from being approved to buy a gun.

The first amendment has limits, just like all rights do. Saying you would like to see the government taken over by intelligent folks is free speech. Saying you want to overthrow the government by force is actually treason. There is a legal way to take over the government, and there is an illegal way to do it. Vowing to do it the latter way, will get you barred from gun ownership in this country.

[Skillet]

As Red would say, "Now just ast yourself....Would you want the whacko looking guy in the picture introducing this thread to represent you and/or the legitimate rights of all gunowners?....Just ast yourself!"

Absolutely. Uncle Ted could represent me any day.

[ants]

The leaders of Iran are bad people. End of story. They have stated publicly that they want Israel wiped off the face of the planet (look it up) Let nuts like that have a nuke?? Really?? Acmagoatboy would be a bigger threat than ever.

[Grouse]

He is also known to support Al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan by giving them weapons and bombs to make IED's with. It is only logical to believe he would give a nuke to terrorists that would wind up in Times Square in NYC. I'd say the world would be wise to control him and Iran in general. Countries like Iran with crazy attitudes are a threat to the entire world.

But to address the original point of this thread, it ain't the nukes or the guns, it's the country or man who uses them for evil, that is the threat.

[Paula]

sorry

[nyantler]

So, it's okay to 'control' certain types of weapons if you feel that the owner or potential owner of those weapons has dangerous intentions? Is that right?

That is absolutely right... Charles Manson should never own a gun... or a nuke... Iran is the Manson of the world... and should never be allowed a nucleur weapon... especially since we know their intent if they get one.. they have already told the world their intentions...

[nyantler]

So, if some yahoo says he wants to overthrow the US government, would you restrict his second ammendment rights because he exercised his first ammendment right to free speech?

Absolutely! What you fail to realize is that although there is freedom of speech... that in no way says that you can use that speech to make threats to the government or anyone for that matter without repercussion... same as yelling "fire" in a crowded theatre... come on virgil.. you're smarter than that... Aren't you???