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This was written very well, so I posted it. SAFE Act bad for business and N.Y. Rochester Business Journal February 28, 2014 Dear Editor: I’m a little behind reading my RBJs but felt very compelled to respond to the letters to the editor in your Jan. 31 issue. In that issue you ran two pro-NY SAFE Act letters from writers from New York City, one week after your Snap Poll had clear results showing that 62 percent oppose the NY SAFE Act and 53 percent think it should be repealed. First, I’d like to state that most people who are against the SAFE Act are not against stricter enforcement of the current laws and have no issues with laws that put and keep criminals in jail. What the writers fail to understand is that criminals are called that for a reason. They do not respect the law, and taking away the rights of law-abiding citizens will do nothing to make us safer; it actually makes us less safe. Criminals by nature will not adhere to the law and will find a way to get firearms without a background check, whether on the black market or by stealing them. Leah Gunn Barrett (the author of one of the letters) from New Yorkers Against Gun Violence has blasted papers throughout upstate with letters and opinion pieces trying to change the “perceptions” of upstate citizens regarding the SAFE Act. I’ve lived in the Rochester area since 1969 and have always been very concerned about how New York City controls so much of the laws that Upstate New Yorkers live and work under and where our tax dollars go. Barrett noted that polls indicate many favor specific aspects of the law; what she does not say is that it’s very small parts like the Webster provision that people favor and hence the huge push for a repeal. This law makes no one safe by limiting the ability of New Yorkers to protect themselves. As an example of how poorly written this law is, people are concerned that if, God forbid, they need psychological help or an anti-depressant for a death in the family, they will be reported to the state and have their firearms confiscated, so they have chosen not to seek help. The main point in Barrett’s letter is that the SAFE Act is good for business. Let’s take a look at some hard facts. In October, American Tactical Imports, a Rochester-based importer, announced that due to the SAFE Act it will be leaving the state and taking 117 jobs and $2.7 million of investments to South Carolina. Beikirch’s Ammunition in East Rochester has opened two locations in Pennsylvania, not New York. Downstate, Kahr Firearms will be expanding in Pennsylvania. On Feb. 18, Remington announced plans to expand in Alabama, creating 2,000 jobs and investing $110 million. In addition, ancillary manufacturing and other jobs will be lost or not created because of this major business exodus. This represents millions of dollars and real jobs and people leaving New York for good. Along with pushing jobs and money out of New York, the implementation of this legislation is going to cost taxpayers $36 million a year and has created a hostile environment for both in-state and out-of-state sportsmen and -women who now risk committing crimes because of the countless technical criminal violations created by the SAFE Act for possessing items that can be purchased over the counter in neighboring states. I find Barrett’s comments about the SAFE Act being good for business baseless when her main goal is to disarm law-abiding citizens and vanquish any firearms-related businesses and manufacturers from New York. Barrett also mentions the power of perception as a reason to implement laws that affect only law-abiding citizens. I’d prefer to use hard facts from the Department of Justice rather than perception, as gun ownership has increased dramatically, according to a report from the department’s Bureau of Statistics. It says that between 1993 and 2011, non-fatal gun crimes plummeted 69 percent, from 1.5 million to 467,300. Gun-related murders dropped 39 percent, from 18,253 to 11,101. Although one school shooting is one too many, the report also shows that the media-created hysteria over school shootings is wildly misleading. Between ’93 and ’11, the murder rate in schools dropped from 29 a year to 20. Background checks have been exposed as another bogus narrative that the media has crafted out of thin air. The report proves beyond any doubt that closing the so-called gun show loophole will accomplish next to nothing. Less than 1 percent of state prisoners caught with a gun purchased it at a gun show. Pew Research Center researchers observed that the huge amount of attention devoted to gun violence incidents in the media has caused most Americans to be unaware that gun crimes have dropped significantly from 20 years ago. In fact, gun-related homicides in the late 2000s were “equal to those not seen since the early 1960s.” Yet their survey found that 56 percent believed gun-related crime is higher; only 12 percent of those polled thought it was lower. It’s a sad state of affairs that most people do not know the hard facts as the anti-gun media refuse to properly report them. Gov. Andrew Cuomo used the message of necessity to bypass the public and get his poorly written law passed in the middle of the night by a Legislature that did not have time to read it. Regardless of one’s opinion of the SAFE Act, all New Yorkers should be very concerned about how this law was written and passed in the dead of the night. Barry Alt Palmyra

Take his guns, his pistol permit and throw him in jail. He is so against guns that he carries one? Typical hypocrite: Guns for me sure that's OK but everyone else should not have them. Sounds like our Gov.

Welcome aboard! Enjoy!

Welcome aboard! Enjoy!

Welcome, enjoy. Great site great people.

My home town its not so bad, SCPD help clean it up. So even if a guy has a gun pointed into your house you can not shoot back? Better off waiting until you are shot to confirm he is loaded? Unreal. This is a clear case of self defense.

Idiot, it could have been avoided.

Welcome aboard! Good luck, have fun and be safe.

22 EEEK The 45 was developed for a reason and it is proven in battle against big determined warriors. If you want to STOP the home invader this will work. Base any round you get on the effectiveness of this round. I know a few people that I would be afraid to use a 22 on due to the ineffectiveness it would provide. If it is winter and the perpetrator is wearing a few thick layers of clothes a 22 might not even penetrate. Make no mistake home defense is defense of your life, use proper fire power to ensure your existence! Bet my 22 LR will go through dry wall. A 12 gauge pump action is the most distinct sound in the world of a criminal and when heard is usually followed by DONT SHOOT! Usually you will hear I surrender or again PLEASE DONT SHOOT! While a follow up shot might not be that easy for some, not many criminals will stick around after that cannon goes off. The other reason I do not like smaller rounds is that people tend to empty the clip. (Spray and pray) How many times I hear of law enforcement empty their guns in a shoot out. Typical of some one under stress and they are suppose to be highly trained. (No offense I understand!) Much better off like hunting and taking one or two exact shots to end the confrontation and prevent any possible collateral damage. If I knew the person braking in was thin then maybe a 22 would work but I would not bet my life on it. JMO

Can you post it when you are done, after you are graded? Good luck. Hope you get an A+!

Other tips to keep in mind. Your sight and peep. These are very important. You want a sight that is easy to see and matches up with your peep exactly. This will ensure consistency in your shooting once your form is good. Some people like small sights with small peeps and other like larger sights with matching peep. Sight pins come in small and large sizes and different colors. Besides trying the bow make sure your peep and sight line up good and you can test sights and peeps to find one you like. I like bright colors around my sight. I mention this because sights can get expensive especially if you look into adjustable ones. Make sure the arrows you buy match up to the bow. Arrow rest: Personally I like the drop away, I think the technology is perfected and it works amazing. Many other rests to choose from. If you shoot short ranges 30 yards and less make sure you shoot at different targets unless you don't mind buying more arrows. Good luck!!!

I am never wrong I am just misunderstood. Wow we are stubborn! I am the first to admit it! Conclusion: We (Hunters) like to argue, because we know WE are right, lol. Even if WE are wrong, reread line one. Man I love this site! LOL

LOL I used all my likes up on this page, too funny! I do not want any more details PLEASE!!!

Finding the largest buck track of my life, fresh in the mud then taking him the next day. I do not think I will ever wake up at 3:30 am with such enthusiasm as that day. My 2010 buck. Getting lucky the first day out hunting on my birthday last year was a close second as I planned almost a month of hunting. Who ever said it is better to be lucky than good was never so right.

Very nice, congrats!!! Best of luck with it! Properly looks great!

LMAO close enough!!! Good one Hardcore!

I like Doewhacker's idea with the zip line! Once it is set up you could attach the deer or anything else that was not too heavy. Plus It would be permanent vs a boat that as we all know can have many issues. Nice thing about a zip line is it would be above the river making it less prone to destruction like a pull rope and boat. Would let animals pass without knowing it is present. Would require much more work but it would add fun to the trip! OMG I want to see a deer on a zip line now. lmao! Nope nothing on google. Now that would be some funny stuff right their.

LOL While I am not against them any more, I will not be voting for them. And no way will I thank him for that!!!

Don't bother Doc, some things just can not be explained. Draw length : 1)One can refer this as the length of the bow when at full draw. 2)One can refer this as the length one has to draw to get to full draw. Two different things. Let me explain... While both can be the same distance on how far back has to be pulled, the anchor point will change causing a bow that is set up for a 30" draw that is perfect to be OFF if the person adds a D-loop. Same draw Length YES but the person with a D-loop is now back 1/2 inch. Resulting in what Feels like a longer draw when in actuality the draw is the same but his anchor points are different. While the bow Draw length is the same and the length the person needs to draw back is the same distance from the bow the person is now further back on the string resulting in the person having to stretch the anchor point further back making it a longer draw for that person. Effect: Same draw length yes but because of the added D-loop the person is now drawing back further to get to full draw. Understand? Same distance to draw but adding a D-loop causes person to draw back further to get TOOOOOO full draw resulting in what is in actuality a longer draw length for that person not the bow. Again same distance on draw for the bow but now the person is drawing back further to get to that position. THis is what we are referring to when we say you changed you draw length. We are referring to the persons draw not the bow. Like Doc said if you add a D-loop to your D-loop it will change YOUR draw length NOT the bow. I believe this is what he is referring to NOT the bow length of draw. I think we need to clarify when talking about draw length weather it is about the bow draw length or the persons draw length. Otherwise I give up for I had this argument last year. I had the same issue trying to explain the difference between a persons draw length vs bow draw length. Add a 4 inch D-loop to your D-loop and you still have the same draw length for the bow but now that person has to anchor back 4 inches more to get to full draw. Plain and simple anything like a D-loop or a really long release will result in that person having to anchor further back. Wonder why the people at archery ranges say you changed your draw length when they know the bow did not change. Go figure that one out, or go and argue with them telling them they are wrong and you can prove it, lol.

Don't bother Doc, some things just can not be explained. Draw length : 1)One can refer this as the length of the bow when drawn. String to full draw. One can refer this as the length one has to draw to get to full draw. Two different things. While both can be the same distance on how far back has to be pulled the anchor point will change causing a bow that is set up for a 30" draw that is perfect to be OFF if the person adds a D-loop. Same draw Length YES but the person with a D-loop is now back 1/2 inch. Resulting in what Feels like a longer draw when in actuality the draw is the same but he anchor points are different. While the bow Draw length is the same and the length the person needs to draw back is the same distance from the bow the person is now further back on anchor resulting in the person having to stretch the anchor point further back making it a longer draw for that person. Effect: Same draw length yes but because of the added D-loop the person is not drawing back further to get to full draw. Understand? Same distance to draw but adding a D-loop causes person to draw back further to get TOOOOOO full draw resulting in what is in actuality a longer draw length for that person.

Love that last paragraph! "In the hands of informed, proficient and selective archers, bows are more than sufficient to the task of managing deer herds in suburban areas, small military bases, and anywhere else deer herds require management but where firearms are not a practical solution. Andy’s data can be used to help secure new hunting opportunities for archers of all types – no matter what equipment they prefer – wherever there are deer that need hunters, and archers who need a place to hunt."

We could argue about this all year lol. I guess we can say that draw length does not change but anchor point can and that is where a proper set up bow will feel perfect and is why "expert" advice is advised. See some one who has been shooting a long time, like 10 years or more. They will help make sure you ARE set up right along with a good pro shop. Welcome to bow hunting! Join the arguments! LOL too funny how we love to argue. Glade I did not start this. I still agree with Doc even though I understand it does not change draw length. I consider anchor point part of it.

Very cool, thanks for sharing!

Shaking like a maraca in music class. LOL Love that description!