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Too funny!!!!

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Keep it together man, go the extra mile at all cost. It's cool you posted that.

This is turning into such a nice thread, what we have, what we've lost and what we will gain!

Get yourself a good, no, great lawyer before you sign anything. They (gas co) will take advantage of you any way they can, you have to protect yourself and your land. You want to learn about gas drilling, don't look at N.Y., don't look at PA., look at Texas. Do a search for gas drilling in Texas and find out for yourself.

Everything about that deer makes me think it's alive, it catches your eye and makes you wonder.

Years ago while transporting my deer back to Long Island I had a whole family give me the finger (there were some little kids in that car) this was on rt 17. Had people point their fingers at me in the shape of a gun, GW bridge. Was asked to move my car at a diner because people didn't want to see a dead deer while they were eating, town of Cairo. Now that I have my own camp and have a processor a few miles away they all stay up there. My neighbor picks them up and keeps them in his freezer till I get back to camp. It also costs much less ($56) to butcher a deer, boneless!

Way to go, a gut pile is a gut pile, love it!

Looking back on the last two months I think the two things that stand out for me are practice your bow skills and always go the extra mile while tracking a deer that has been hit. I missed a nice buck this year twice, why? Probably lack of practice shooting at targets in the woods or at least 3d. The other was tracking a deer that was hit good but a bit far back in the mid section. We had nice blood for 50 yards then nothing. We did circles looking for more blood and found nothing, did this for 1.5 hours. only after expanding the circle and the smell of a musky odor in the direction that the wind was blowing did we find the deer. Happy hunting!

He is a post that maybe there will be no back-n-forth! lol I'v hunted for 35 years and there are still many things to learn while out in the deer woods. What one or two aspects of hunting that really hit home this year, you would share for all to learn from. Could be as simple as gun safety or a new type of tree stand. Your never too old to learn something new or just to refresh your skills!

Nice, I heard 300-400 bears taken by now, is this true?

Eyes, ears and front leg. Looks like it wants to get up.

An article on the con side of drilling and one in the middle, http://www.yesmagazine.org/planet/the-fight-against-fracking http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/10/will-new-york-rebel-against-fracking/

It's up to you as an individual, sportsman and hunter to protect the environment. Too many articles out there about the good and bad on gas drilling. A good example was the article a few issues ago in NY Outdoor news, it painted such a rosy picture of the perfect drilling site with no problems. At no point in the article did they visit a town that had problems. Do you home work before leasing, fracking fluid is toxic and the gas companies don't want you to know what's in it. Accidents are a small percentage to the amount of wells that have been drilled but when they happen disaster strikes. Sorry but the same can be said about the gulf and look what happened, that I'm sure is not over with. I'm not pro or con, still much to be learned.......

That deer still alive in the photo?

Good information for all to see, I don't think Fracking has been going on in N.Y. for 30 years?? Your description is perfect if all goes well, just think if your that unlucky person that has a problem. Do yourself a favor and get a good gas lease lawyer before you sign anything, it will be worth it. I'm not an expert and you can find more information on http://www.pagaslease.com/ it is a great forum to learn about Gas drilling in N.Y. and PA. Again I started this post to try tpo find out what hunters thought about gas companies using hunting properties to drill on and how it might change things.

Good deal eddie, enjoy the meat.

Good point Wooley, I could of been busted then by taking that 8pt. BTW it was a gut shot deer that the hunter never found, the thing was all stinky and bloated. I was surprised that the coyotes didn't munch on it.

Fracking has not been going on for years, drilling yes but fracking no. The only huge lease offers to date exceedeing $3,000 bucks per acre are down in the Catskill region. This is the core area of the Marcellus shale. Out lying areas like the southern tier are getting a couple hundred per acre.

If I left my camp and was driving down the road and saw deer in my field I would stop and stalk.

Thanks for the replies guys. Doc your right fracting has been going on in other states. The gas co pumps down into the ground a toxic mixture at high pressure that fracts the shale but the mixture has to be removed. Most problems happen when the mixture is spilled at surface level. My question is would you be willing to give up you peaceful little 100 acre hunting camp and have a 4acre well pad installed with holding tanks for gas and waste water, 24/7 generator that you can hear while in the woods and the change to your small town that comes when big Co's come in to drill for gas? LADWAZ has a great point, so you take the deal, it would be hard to pass up. What would be the cost? I don't think most people are going to hang around after getting that much cash? Maybe it won't effect us that much (hunting) drilling only goes on for 6-8 months, sure they could be drilling during hunting season but that would be only one season. I often wonder about this subject while in the woods sitting on my stand. Would I let them drill, at what cost and how will it change my life here in a place I can't put a price tag on (or can I) ??? ??? ??? ?

So it's a hot topic, I haven't seen it talked about here, maybe an older post before I joined. How do you guys feel about this? I want to know is the hunting part of it, encroaching on your property, right-of-ways, drilling sites and storage. We are so passionate about our hunting privileges will they be compromised? Are you willing to lease to the gas companies and let them use your property to drill on? How about state land, how do you feel about that? I'm in the Southern Tier so it's a hot topic, Catskills should also be in the same situation.

Couple seasons ago found a nice 8pt dead during archery season, couldn't use the meat but I did take the horns.

I can't wait to get back. Cancelled last weekend but have a three day muzzleloader set Sat-Mon next week.

Funny Steve! I have never had a jam in the gun, sorry it did jam when I used 3" mags on the third cycle. Other than that it is a great gun!