Five Seasons

i find that hard to believe

woah, woah, woah. Never said that. Just said that with permission I haven't been denied or would I deny someone. Secondly, you can't get away that easy. Tell us more how predator hunting is useless and has a negative affect on the deer population?

no. and funny thing is all the mechanical haters I know bought a few 15 years ago and never tried them since. Or didn't like how they flew into a target. I don't know. If your shot is good it wont mater. I find the chisel tip more forgiving for a poor shot. A real bad shot? Hard to blame the head, but hunters always will.

i don't care who you are, that there is funny

Pre rut is usually afternoons with a few mornings. No all days till rut.

I agree with this too. As hard as it is to justify the price, if you try on an UA jacket and then try on a field and stream jacket the difference is night and day. Do deer care? Of course not. With the 100 different camo patterns out there, do you need the matching pants? No. Will the deer notice if your pants are mossy oak and your jacket realtree ap? No.However if you want comfortable, breathable, waterproof and warm you're going to pay. I like the tight fitting jackets for bow as it keeps the stuff away from my string. With gun? You can kind of wear whatever you want as long as it's warm haha. I bought a pair of UA gloves off clearance in March. They retail for $74. Unbelievable for gloves. But my hands don't sweat. They're warm and waterproof. But they were $30 on sale. That's when you need to buy.

Plastic rainwear is a big no no. Swish, swish, swish through the woods. Your best bet for good outerwear is after the season clearance or sportsmansguide. I've had the same set for years. You do pay a little more for the good stuff but it's worth it. Keeps you in the stand longer and more comfortable. That said. UA is overpriced and you really don't need the scent stuff for outer layers. Get some good base layer scent control and a head and you're fine. My favorite gear is no longer made. It was cheaper and wind/rain proof and quiet. Whitewater was the brand. I think they were sold to Robinson outdoors.

Absolutely destroyed an 8 last year.

Had to buy extended boxer briefs to wear under my underarmor because it pulled the hair out of the cack of my legs. I go UA, then wool if it's real cold then scent blocker bases slayers. Then camo jean pants. Then outer layer.

That's odd, you should have got right in. The screaming eagle would still serve you

I haven't seen mossy oak or real tree worn too much as a fashion statement. I do see tiger stripe and army though. I have a legendary whitetail bathing suit. It's awesome. Almost all my hats are camo and I wear them all the time. I have a few nice fleece jackets that have been retired from hunting that I wear occasionally. Or I might stop and run some errands on my way back from scouting/prep in camo jeans and shirt. I have a fair share of deer related shirts that aren't camo that I wear. I feel people judge too much. Catch me on a weekday in khakis in a nice polo driving my nice car and you might think I couldn't fix a clogged drain or have ever spent a minute in the woods. Catch me on the weekend unshaven in ripped work jeans and a dirty shirt in my beat up pickup and you probably assume I'm white trash and chances are I earn more than you. At the end of the day, don't ever judge others based off appearance. Edit. Forgot about my camo iPhone otterbox. It's a great way to connect with other hunters. They spot it and the convo goes from there.

Lol I know plenty of hunters who think nothing like me. I am not bashing your rights and understand your view. But I must say it's rare. No purpose huh? Now that's absolutely a first

The stores wouldn't stock them if people didn't buy it. No different than rage 3 blade broadheads.And you can't ban food. Even if they removed the fancy deer marketing, farmers still buy this stuff. Baiters will just buy the same stuff the farmers buy for their animals. Or if they're really feeling froggy a bag of apples from Wegmans. To me it only makes sense to outlaw the use.

I've never met a hunter who owns land that did not allow yote hunters access after deer season. Same even for turkey. It's the all mighty whitetail or animal rights activists that tend to be the most enforced.

I still think a good compromise is to allow baiting but not to allow hunting over it. I said it before, but some states allow it for attractant and cameras but you must be 100 yards and not within site of the bait to be legal.

that sucks. most parks do have some pretty descriptive rules and this one wouldn't surprise me if it were true. I've hunted some that allow permanent stands and others that don't. it all depends.

I think if i was to do it i'd find a way to tow my game cart in on a rope. Maybe use it to carry the climber too. Then if I bagged a deer i'd walk out with the bike strapped to the top of the game cart. I know my trek doesn't weigh anything. I think most of this really only works on relatively wide and flat trails though.

i've had my bow for 7 or 8 seasons and never lubed my cams. I wax the strings and replace worn parts. I'm a nut for good PM on anything I own so I'm interested in the response too. I do not hunt hardly ever in the rain though and the bow is always stored in a case.

fair point. my terrain was pretty flat. hills could get bad i agree.

we're changing the tune here. First we're talking about not killing deer (eventhough we see doe). Then it becomes about bucks. I'm sorry man. I have no remorse for that. if you're self imposing buck shooting only and because you have to kill something with horns you're not winning anyone over with an attempt to legalize baiting.

no it's not a long distance but when you're trying for less walking/sweating and to sleep another 20 min. a slow pedal on the bike will keep the stink away. $100 for a decent cart and the haul isn't so bad.

did this at darien once. Parked over by the fields where the pheasent are and biked in quite a ways deeper than anyone dare hike. I had some good action. I did use a climber and throw in a bow and it's a bulky set up. I did not lock the bike either. The trick is to keep a cart in your truck and just realize you've got a decent hike for retrial (something most of us wouldn't mind ). I had a trek mountain bike that was really good off the main paths.

A. I doubt it's 50%. Where did you get that number? B. Yes that is baiting.

this is getting into a pretty big thread derail, but there are many who succeed in the mountains. So many variables equal success. Time in the stand, time spent scouting, scent control, pressure etc. I do not want to know how much effort you put in, but I will say that your endorsement of baiting smacks of someone who is failing at something and wants to make it easier. Perhaps you spend whole weekends in the spring and summer scouting and prepping. Perhaps you sit all day and use vacation days to bag a deer. If you do, then I can see your frustration. The adk are not nearly as dense as other parts of the state. But have you not even seen a doe?

I feel like your contradict yourself. If you like a challenge, you wouldn't also want to make it easier when it gets tough... counting on it and needing it to survive are different. I do indeed spend a good chunk of uncessary change to hunt. To make it more comfortable and to increase my odds. But when I moved this past winter and went 4 months waiting on my parents to bring me my vension it was very evident in our grocery bills. Do I count on it? I think so. But I do not need it.