SteveB

Crossbows have been legal long enough in enough areas that those with safety concerns should have plenty of data available to support their positions. Please post it for all to see. Thanks.

I'm in. I hunt with a recurve and have zero issues with anyone using a crossbow.

Depends on what you consider upstate - lots of varied territory north of the city.

I've seen dbl lung go over 100 yds on a dead run - deer can cover a lot of distance in just a few seconds. Recovered a high back dbl lung for a friend that made it almost 300 yds. You have been fortunate to never needing more then 40 yds to recover one. Most are not that lucky/good.

Good luck on having every deer shot with a bow travel only 40 yards.

There is no right to retrieve in NY without landowner permission. Retrieval permission from neighbors should be sought before ever shooting - especially when hunting small areas. Failure to have permission could limit your shot opportunities and make recovery of a dead animal difficult/impossible.

If a neighbor won't give you permission to shoot, then they probably won't allow recovery when you need it. The only backstop that should be allowed in any neighborhood is tight to the shooters own house. If you don't trust yourself to not hit your own house, you shouldn't be shooting there.

Marinating wings now for Sunday. Will smoke them about 2 hrs at 180 - then sauce and finish for 15 minutes at 450.

From the U.S. Venison Council Controversy has long raged about the relative quality and taste of venison and beef as gourmet foods. Some people say venison is tough, with a strong “wild” taste. Others insist venison’s flavor is delicate. An independent food research group was retained by the Venison Council to conduct a taste test to determine the truth of these conflicting assertions once and for all. First, a Grade A Choice Holstein steer was chased into a swamp a mile and a half from a road and shot several times. After some of the entrails were removed, the carcass was dragged back over rocks and logs, and through mud and dust to the road. It was then thrown into the back of a pickup truck and driven through rain and snow for 100 miles before being hung out in the sun for a day. It was then lugged into a garage where it was skinned and rolled around on the floor for a while. Strict sanitary precautions were observed throughout the test, within the limitations of the butchering environment. For instance, dogs and cats were allowed to sniff and lick the steer carcass, but most of the time were chased away when they attempted to bite chunks out of it. Next, a sheet of plywood left from last year’s butchering was set up in the basement on two saw horses. The pieces of dried blood, hair and fat left from last year were scraped off with a wire brush last used to clean out the grass stuck under the lawn mower. The skinned carcass was then dragged down the steps into the basement where a half dozen inexperienced but enthusiastic and intoxicated men worked on it with meat saws, cleavers, hammers and dull knives. The result was 375 pounds of soup bones, four bushel baskets of meat scraps, and a couple of steaks that were an eighth of an inch thick on one edge and an inch and a half thick on the other edge. The steaks were seared on a glowing red hot cast iron skillet to lock in the flavor. When the smoke cleared, rancid bacon grease was added, along with three pounds of onions, and the whole conglomeration was fried for two hours. The meat was gently teased from the frying pan and served to three intoxicated and blindfolded taste panel volunteers. Every member of the panel thought it was venison. One volunteer even said it tasted exactly like the venison he has eaten in hunting camps for the past 27 years. The results of this scientific test conclusively show that there is no difference between the taste of beef and venison.

Had them in the DR. Tasty, but not real filling.

Smoked chicken leg quarters on my pellet grill last night. Leftover's for work today.

This had to have made the news - got a link to a report?

Let's not forget blaze orange as something else we all can agree on

Not at all. Just showing the "able bodied don't need one" anti crossbow position as extremely weak. Never heard a crossbow go bang, belch smoke, or blow an animals head off. But we've been thru this before.

Wouldn't matter how it turned out if someone did take you up on your offer. You would still be what you are regardless of which party took the beating. Your point?

Why should an able bodied person need to use a compound vs a recurve - there is no good reason. Just another opinion.

Maybe because our incident rate is the same or lower then most states that have it mandatory? Just asking - those convinced it would make NY safer should have those stat's showing our rate of compliance is significantly lower then where mandatory and a new law would make a statistical difference.

It is entirely possible to be a patriot, responsible, moral and of a conservative mindset without professing christianity.

You never know what brand you get at HD, Lowes, TSC etc. They all buy from brokers and the the only criteria is price. I and most stove dealers would like to have the box stores get really good at selling pellets. They are a low margin pia for the most part to handle.

Good post Pygmy.

Not to side track the thread, but I have never needed an invisible friend to help someone deserving and needy. But it should be a personal choice who and when to help - not a government mandate.

I'm that predictable?

Whether 4 or 13 did the shooting, the final number is still 13. And I bet not one of the 13 deer cared a bit who killed them. If done legally, I am not going to judge them or critique the motivation - especially without knowing a lot more info then we have available on this thread.

1st post is a request to help win a contest. No.

Yep - ready to cook in 15 minutes and really versatile . Not that pricey when you consider it is 140 lbs of ceramic and and pretty much a lifetime grill. Use a lot less charcoal then like a Weber kettle - which I used for years.