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At least it will be a tasty 25 pounds.

Did you get a chest girth measurement ? That is a good sized bear because I have heard that those over 200 pounds are not worth eating.

I saw an episode of her camping in a pop-up trailer a few years ago. It was pretty entertaining. Her and George Clooney also attended the wedding. I wonder if they know that Harry is big into hunting. There is a lot of good video on-line of Harry's buddy, prince Franz-... from Bavaria, pulling off some incredible broadside running shots on wild boars. That type of skill is not so common on this type of the pond. I have tried to develop it with a lot of off-season target range practice last summer. I was very thankful to drop a single, broadside running doe in my woods with a shot thru the shoulder blade last fall. It was cool watching the video of that guy do it to about 6 wild boars on six shots. I like the way the "royalty" hunts over there in Europe, take a stand and let the "beaters" push the game past them.

I would say the odds of him getting her to accept hunting is pretty good. It looks like he is really into it. This could be a great way to show the world that hunting does more good than bad for both mankind and wildlife.

Seafood for me also tonight. I just thawed out some vacuum-sealed steelhead fillets from last fall and just put them in the oven. I will have to see how that compares with fresh brown trout from this spring, that I made a couple weeks ago. None of that stuff (from Lake Ontario) for the wife and kids, due to the health advisories. They will be getting leftover venison backstrap stir-fry for dinner tonight.

I chose to stay home and watch it with the wife (who never gets up that early), rather than go fishing or turkey hunting in the rain. I thought the black-American preacher gave an excellent sermon - totally focused on Love. It was a very impressive event that should have many positives from a world-wide perspective. Certainly, it will strengthen US/Great-Britain relations. Also, it was great to see all the attention focused on a Christian marriage. That should deal an impressive setback to other religions and to the secular forces that are still trying to minimize the importance of Jesus Christ, despite the shellacking they took in the last US presidential election. Finally, the Royalties acceptance of the bi-racial American bride should help quench the racial tensions that continue to flare up from time to time. Lots of good stuff here. Turkey sucks and we still have plenty of fish in the freezer anyhow.

Thanks Wooly, That reminds me of this one from my Favorite movie

One of the best trades I ever made, was when an older hunting buddy gave me a Griswold No 6 Erie Pa iron frying pan in exchange for a rattle bag. I had that bag for a number of years, and it never worked for me. The pan is very well seasoned and I fry my eggs in it every Saturday and Sunday. The trick is, pour a little olive oil in it, let it heat up, then break the eggs. They never stick. Cleanup is easy, just a quick wipe with a paper towel. The best use of it for sure though, is fresh button buck liver, lightly seared, in olive oil with some onions. None of that for me last year, but I hope to get it done this fall.

I did a fall Quebec Moose/Bear trip a long time ago. The licences we bought included "other species". One of those on the list was porcupines. There were (6) of us on that one week trip and each evening we took turns watching the dump at night. One of the experienced guys said that if the bear is above the second rung of the bait barrel, while on all four feet, then it is a shooter. No one saw any all week and I had the watch on the last night. They all heard my shot ring out, as they were sitting around the table playing cards. As I dragged the carcass back to cabin, they were all out on the front porch in anticipation. I heard one of them say: "He must have shot a cub". I told them that what I thought was a 55 gallon bait barrel, with a huge bear towering over it, turned out to be a Folgers coffee can and a fat porky. We did a little pike and walleye fishing on that trip and the walleyes tasted the same as the ones I have caught in NY. No one saw any moose or bears, thru the week. The thing I remember the most, was how itchy my hair (I had a lot more then) got after so many days without a shower. Eventually, I walked out to the end of the dock with a bar of soap and lathered it up. I will never forget the "numb" feeling of sticking my head under that 35 degree water. If they don't have hot running water up there, I would recommend taking some of that "dry-rinse" shampoo that they make these days. Also, I have heard that bears under 200 pounds are good eating, but those over, not so much. The bigger ones make nicer rugs though. Either way, it sounds like a fun trip and I wish you the best of luck on it.

Here is a better send off for Dick/Belo. He said he was happy there.

The DEC might frown on using a bush hog to put corn on the ground for bringing in deer or Turkey. I just brush hogged a corn plot from last fall this week. I turkey hunted back there a couple morning before cutting it. It did not look like there was any corn left on it anyhow, but I am not taking any chances. I am not very much into turkeys, but I will save my tags for up in the Adirondacks over Memorial day weekend. There were a few springs, when I had really good corn plots, and they drew in lots of turkeys when I bush hogged them in the spring. I never hunted them, but the neighbors may have taken advantage of the situation.

I think everyone's bucket list should include an Adirondack Whitetail hunt. The time of year is a toss-up. Peak fall-foliage is awesome and usually hits around the start of ML season in early October. It is tough to beat the first good snow, and that has the added bonus of making the hunting easier (the deer show up better and you can see and follow their tracks). That usually occurs around Thanksgiving. I have killed a total of four deer up there, two in each of those conditions, and that makes it impossible for me to pick my favorite. There are no words that can describe how much the stunning scenery adds to the experience. It is something you have to try yourself. Experiencing some success up there has caused hunting in other places, of lesser natural beauty, to loose some of its luster. There may be more deer in the flatlands of Western NY, but sometimes I find myself thinking of being up in the mountains when I hunt around here. Even the thought of another Rocky mountain mule deer hunt is unappealing to me now. The Adirondacks are prettier (unless you are into high-desert scenery) and the whitetails are a lot tastier. Speaking of taste, as long as the Adirondack deer are taken from the edges, near some ag country or oak forests, they taste just as good as the ones from around home in WNY. We just started eating the grind from an Adirondack buck this week, after finishing up the last from one from WNY last week. The taste is virtually identical. Probably no coincidence considering each had a belly full of corn.

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Belo is ok with me. He is the only one, of the "anti-crossbow" minority here, with the balls to say he is against them for "selfish, elitist" reasons. I also think the moderation is very well done. If your skin gets thin you can always take a break.

How about a toy crossbow ?

I usually plant corn around Memorial day and spray it around the Fourth of July, when it is about knee high (20"). If you are using a boom sprayer, you might want to get on it a little earlier (about a foot high) for better coverage. The recommended rate is 32 oz per acre, so you would need a little less than a gallon. The amount to add per gallon of water depends on your speed and nozzle flow rate. I always get a real good kill with three oz. of roundup per gallon of water, but I only spray directly on the rows of corn. I use a cultivator to take out most of the weeds between the rows. I have two spray nozzles on my two-row cultivator tractor, and I also use a 2-row planter with 36" row spacing. Weed growth is sparse between the rows anyhow, because I only apply fertilizer on the rows with my planter. Weeds don't do well without fertilizer. There are several advantages to only spraying the Roundup on the rows, and allowing some weeds to grow in between. Most important is the cost savings. Using fertilizer and spray, only on the rows, lets you stretch the foodplot budget a lot farther. Roundup (and knock-offs) has fallen in cost since Monsanto's patent expired, but fertilizer is still costly. A close second is: weedy corn is more attractive to deer. Going "wide" with the planter in some areas, deep inside the plot, will allow grassy bedding areas to form. There is a big difference in growing corn to kill deer and growing it to sell. Most folks don't know the difference and think it is all about yield. I always get roundup-ready seed for free by using farmer friend's leftovers from the prior year(s). It keeps very well and I have noticed no drop in germination when stored up to 5 years, down in my basement. One other tip, if you want to see your corn last thru late ML season: You may have to get rid of some coons. They start the chain of destruction, by taking down the stalks when the corn is young and tender. Turkeys, doves and squirrels will move in and clean it up when it is down. I usually start taking out the coons in late August. The earlier you take them out, the less corn you will loose. Coons which are causing destruction (such as eating corn intended for "other" purposes) may be legally killed by landowners, as long as the carcasses are burned or burried. After regular coon trapping/hunting season opens, they can be thrown out for the buzzards. Since the crash in fur prices, coon overpopulation has been an issue. I carry a shovel and a .22 when I am checking traps, which makes compliance with the letter of the law relatively painless, and provides a little more "free" fertilizer. Coons are about the easiest furbearer there is to trap. Dog-proof traps, baited with cat food or box traps baited with marshmellows and peanut butter, will get them under control in short order. The coons can also help you though, because the deer also prefer to feed in corn that has been knocked down for them by the coons. If you are looking for good fall turkey hunting around your corn plot, you definitely want to keep some coons around. Turkeys will not touch corn if it has not been knocked down for them by the coons. It is all a trade-off. Ideally, you will have a little bit of corn left on the last day of ML season.

Now we know

Back on track: How do you catch a unique coyote ? A: You neek up on it. How do you catch a tame coyote ? A: Tame way.

This thread very clearly illustrates that we are all less than perfect. Everybody has a tough time admitting that. Thankfully, there is Someone who will forgive us all of all of our wrongs. About 72 % of Americans know that right now, according to the latest surveys. The 28 % who "don't know no better" still have time to "get with the program".

We need one of the more experienced pollsters, like Rob or Belo to do that. They can make them little boxes you check which give only two choices. There was too much grey area in the only poll that I posted.

As someone who tries to live a subsistance lifestyle, and feed his family off the fat of the land and waters, I am firmly against this practice. I see any catch and release fishing as the senseless maiming of a fine food source. To do it during the mating season is many times worse. Anyone who has grown up around farm ponds, has seen that when the male largemouth bass are removed from the nests, the bluegills move in quick to feast on the fry. Gobies do the same thing with smallmouth bass in the great lakes. Each time these super-agressive, easily caught males are pulled up into boats for photos and measurements, thousands of baby bass are sacrificed. Bass season dates were established for a reason, to protect future fisheries. That said, I do agree with the practice of catch and release of larger fish during their normal open season. Those are the breeders that are also very important in maintaining future fisheries. I prefer to keep only those that are at or close to the minimum legal length. A side benefit to eating these smaller fish, is that they generally contain less toxic chemicals, and are therefore better for your health. My favorite thing about the gobies, is that smallmouth bass get pretty big now in Lakes Erie & Ontario and the St Lawrence and Niagara rivers , at a young age. I use to release anything over 15". These days, feasting on gobies, they reach 20" length when they are still young enough to be relatively good eating. If there are one or two that size, in the first five that I catch, they don't often get released now. That is a big time saver in both catching and cleaning.

My wife made venison-barley soup in the crock pot. The kids liked it. It tasted better to me, after I added a little cayenne pepper and washed it down with a Genny light. I had to go back for a second bowl.

I am sorry to hear about that Rob and once again (or as many times as necessary) I forgive you for your personal attack. Sooner or later you will learn (as many others have) that there is nothing you can say or do to piss me off. The bitterness that you harbor is born of jealousy. What you are doing with these attacks is like drinking poison and expecting it to hurt me. My recommendation is that you stop feeling sorry for yourself and put your faith in the Lord. He can overcome any physical challenge, up to and including death itself. I will pray that you get better and have a good year hunting. p.s: Cool (8) pages. Hopefully a few more votes will come in to make the poll more accurate.

You and Buckmaster sound like a born fighters, who hunt primarily for the challenge. I don't have a problem with that and I would be happier if there was more like you. It is too bad that this poll indicates that the antler craze may be in decline. I was born a killer, who seeks to minimize the challenge, and I kill mainly for food. Fortunately, we live in a state where there are plenty of deer for all of us. By the way, last year's crossbow buck was also a 3-1/2 year old, according to the skull size (slightly larger than the one on the left on the page 6 photo). Is that mature for you ? I had thought it was just a stout 2-1/2 year old, until I did the euro and compared the skull size. The PA chest-girth measurement / body weight conversion also matches up to a 3-1/2 year old, per the NY state hunting regulation book. I did post a kill shot of that one with me in it, on the back of my wife's mini-van, in the crossbow section. The busted up rack was nothing special, but that is ok. Antlers do not mean too much to me. Now I can find something better to do with the $500 that a shoulder mount would have cost. That will buy a lot of fertilizer and diesel fuel. That sucker sure did have some meat on it. We just finished the last pack of grind from it last week and still have (5) roasts an a couple packs of backstrap left in the freezer from it. Our food supply looks pretty good at this point, with that and (2) more average-sized deer remaining. We should have plenty to last until the fall when the new ones start coming in if the Lord chooses to bless us again as He always has. A button buck sure would be nice because I am almost forgetting how good they are. Have you ever tried one ? There is something to be said for milk on the lips. That could be why they taste so good. I know for a fact, that General Eisenhower dominated the PA beef competitions, back in the early 1960's, with his black-angus steers that were finished on Holstein milk. Maybe Buckmaster could try that trick with his, since he don't care for venison.

That changes the situation. If they were side by side and the spike was clearly that much bigger, then I would at least consider using my tag on him. I might just pull the trigger, if it was near the end of the season and the extra weight would make the difference in securing our year's food supply. A side bonus would be saving the taxidermy money, as I would feel obliged to get a shoulder mount of a 150 incher. It has been almost ten years since I killed an antlered buck with less than 3 points on a side. I do get less fussy as the season progresses if our meat supply is low. Two seasons ago I saw two bucks in exactly the same spot, a few minutes apart, with about that same difference in body weight, as in your hypothetical scenario. The one with the smaller body showed up first, and was a 1-1/2 year old spike, which I passed. The busted up 2-1/2 year old 5-point that I killed minutes later was originally an 8 (no where near 150"). If the bodies had been reversed on those two, there is no doubt I would have shot the spike. It was the combination of tiny body and tiny rack (slightly more than 3") that kept me off the trigger. My neighbor's nephew killed that little spike a couple weeks later and regretted having to use his buck tag on it. He said that he did not see the rack and he assumed he was shooting at a doe. Now maybe you can understand why I would like to see 3-points on a side minimum AR's. If nothing else, they would slow folks down and make them make sure of their target. An individual with a buck and a doe tag in his posession can be dangerous when "anything goes". The situation you describe is highly unlikely because, like in the case I just described, the larger antlers almost always mean an older deer with a larger body. That is my favorite thing about antlers - the rough gauge they provide indicating the sex (and ease of processing), age, and body size. If bucks did not have them, it would not make much difference in my desire to hunt. I assume that you and FSW would never have gotten involved in the sport if that was the case.