G-Man

bml land was taken from familys but they retain grazing rights..most of the west is this way if you didnt own the land you can pay a grazing fee. ny central park is open to free range as well if you would like to keep your sheep grazing there(its on the books look it up) its not a lease like in the dacks where camps are being taken over by the state when they run out and are razed to the ground. his family owned the land generations ago. but he paid the fee anyway when this crap hit the fan he looked into it and he doesnt have to pay on his familys former land. the feds were worried about a desert tortise that is expanding its range.. its based on animal lovers saying one thing and reality another. bison and tortises got along fine as do the cattle. but he stood his ground while others fled. kudos for him. this is also an issue around yellowstone where public lands are grazed on by cattle, ranchers there despise the bision as they carry and pass on dieseses to cattle.. they were told to stop grazing but feds couldnt stop them and ant bison that leave the park are usually shot..its public land but ranchers know their rights and defended them years ago on basically same issue.

I got a buck and caped it for a 3/4 mount jumping out of a wallfortunately my uncle looked at it in detail and talked me into this form...shows of 80% of the white at 1/4 the cost of the 3/4 mount. Nice to have a good taxidermists opinion on issues like that.

Jakes are usually the 1st birds to fall to predators as they come easyest to a call and are nat as warry as their hormones are in full control..no reason not to take one... I've seen red fox yelp like a hen and call Jakes in.. I would assume coyotes have learned to do the same.

Been hearing them mid am this week... haven't got my ass out of bed to hear them on roost....

Not legal yet as rules and regs not set... lbs pull, distance axle to axle,bolt length,act are still to be set. Will be by fall season. Hope to try it next spring. I have never been spotted drawing on a deer but have been by many turkeys.. I'm 1-15 against turkeys with bow.. hope that a crossbow makes a difference.

Absolutely!.

I'LL go with the woody...smaller but faster...

Seem funny they have you spray down and use UV killers on your cameo but then put UV on bait...maybe if you just sit still and don't wash with UV killers the deer will just walk up to try and eat you .... then bang! Done hunting... be your own bait pile don't use UV killers!!

I shot one and mounted it... I believe bad luck is from an albino...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av2u8OO8Dpw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

dec salary if i remember correctly,is paid out of general fund same as troopers , or we could have more officers.enviromantal programs, enviromrntal cleanup, habitiat creation are from licence sales.. and as for not caring , their purpose is to control game and fish numbers. caring about someone getting a 165class buck is last on their list. plain and simple the general public wants less deer ruining their plants and cars... as for less hunters because the dont see big bucks, that happens now and will happen to new crossbowers who cant get close enought for a shot. if we as hunters dont do our part in reducing doe numbers to the point where seeing 3 together will make the news.. they will find other means to reduce numbers.. i kknow many hunters who get a doe tag and will not fill it.. now that we pay for them (i think this was put in place to kull those who wont shoot a doe) hopefully anterlass deer will be taken is what they hope for... i still think earn a buck or preference for next years doe tage should be based on success of previous tags being filled. i know 1 guy who gets his 2 tags every year. and sends them back like he got doe just so they stop issuing so many doe tags as he is against taking any doe. With people doing things like that no wonder our estimates are way off...

Yes.

And if you eat game that eats this..do you glow as well?

Well there is a demand for sex so I guess I should just open a brothel.. yes you make money, thing is your buisness is founded on and based on the media instilled belief that big bucks are the way to go and if you don't have one something is wrong with you. As a breeder you know that big racks are 60% based on a doe, not the buck. So perpetuating the myth of a big buck from controlled environment with top feed is going to improve your herd or prove you a better hunter is absurd. Continued breeding for antler size will create other problems with in the species, problems that could be possibly and most likely beintroduced into wildl populations. There is no way physically to distinguish between a wild and genetliclly bred whitetail at this point. And therefore great danger exists.. your quote of supply and demand can be used for drugs, sex, or anything that is craved..itdoesn't make it a reason to make it right or legal . I'm sure 50 years from now a deer that was harvested on a game farm will be included in the record books as evidence of where it came from or how and when it was harvested will forgotten. This will further taint what nature actually created . the same problem exits within the flint knappers world, a stone point is a stone point. But one made today is undistinguishable from one 10,000 years ago. Fakes do end up selling as originals. There is a code among knappers to mark your own points so the cannot be confused with real. I do not see that in the world of whitetails...perhaps if you put a gene in them to make them blue and called them blue tails....

Animal that are domesticated and bred for certain traits do have a multitude of problems, look at dog breeds hip displasia,certain dogs are bred for aggression/protection although they may be fine around their owners, some are bred to go down a rabbit hole and chase it out or chase deer or fox, horses ..thoroughbred for speed are snapping weakend legs in races and yet the breed them afterwards to pass on that speed to another generation making it weaker.genes are complicated a mutation that is selected naturally is much different than one bred for. Deer are not domesticated. Perhaps cwd is more prevalent in older deer same as alsheimers in older people. Fact is game farms do not have domesticatd animals in them but creatures that if escaped can and do pass on genes to wild herds. And I may be wrong but looking at domesticated vs wild animal issues cattle vs buffalo for example.. a game farm that is breeding for profit is in fact a threat, if you were breeding to keep an endangered animal alive, or for scientific study I really wouldn't have a problem with it. But to profit from wild game and provide a hunt to a "sportsman" who maybe hunts wild game as well does not make you a sportsman or the hunter a sportsman or concervationist either.

That's all this really comes down to for people for or against it is hunter satisfaction. The DEC really doesn't seem to care about that to much just take numbers especially doe harvest.. it is the only reason behind AR's . Bow hunter think their satisfaction will decrease with more hunters in the wood. They didn't want a youth hunt in their season even though guns are being used thru the entire season anyway for small game, with grouse and squirrel, turkey hunters being in the woods screwing up thier hunting much more than the few thousand youth hunters that go afield.

I though possibly a mink as well but doesn't seem to have the bounding stride I usually see with them

The cwd was diagnosed in the 60's..its existed since we don't know when... like the flu in humans it can wipe us all out at any time but some seem to make it thru regardless. As for it being in a "captive" herd if known, I guess its up to the state to decide what should be done. I do not condone any wild animal being raised for profit, or genetic manipulation to bring out more desirable characteristics. I do not believe qdma believes in it as well their policy's of let them grow does nothing to genetics just allowing a deer to mature. By changing a deer's genetics thru selective breeding you may enhance a characteristic you want but can also be changing things you ccan't see, brain/body functions which can then be passed onto wild untouched herds creating more problems and un healthy game. As for these people being sportsmen as well, I don't see how a sportsman profits from game, those were known as market hunters.

I don't see the large hind foot print indicative of raccoon, look closer to woodchuck tracks... Perhaps it went to creek to get a drink. And got its front feet wet... hard to tell with out a size comparison and full track pattern..

Hasn't cwd been around (identified) since the 60's out west... who cares about it..deer are still here. And there...ehd is a bigger problem , as is habitat degradation from animal over population. Personally if you have a animal buisness, for scents/urine, great...I don't buy any so I don't support your endeavors. As for breeding for rack size your part of a much bigger problem... canned hunts,high fence or not, introducing new genetics to an area through releasing large racked bucks... keep conning the uneducated into thinking it helps and you are then part of the problem.with what's wrong in hunting and the media presentation of it today.

I keep mine on as fast as possible..on all trails. I don't usually set up cameras on feeding areas, but would set it much higher maybe up to. five min.

just some current pics bucks are popping their horns already...

Yep, no problem if your fine with a different cape.

I am in the process of having 2 large ponds put in as part of 9 acre permant easement, was waiting on new farm bill to pass to have funding to do it

Make sure your not converting a good bedding area into a food plot, those are worth more than the food plot is. And if you turkey hunt are they nesting areas?.. seems every overgrown field becomes a food plot... its not always a good thing... I screwed up myself and lost a great bedding area. Yes the deer came to eat but bedding is far more important.. if the deer bed. Property's away they have to walk past a lot of hunters before they get to your foods and if highly pressured will do so only under cover of darkness. If they bed on yours and a well thought out and placed plot is planted they only walk on your property.