Deerthug Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Found out today that there is a loose Ibex that escaped about 4 weeks ago from a local game farm. Heard from our neighbor that the DEC has been up and down the road abutting the land I hunt every night this past week. DEC wants to take it out so it won't breed with the local whitetails. My Bro in law is up there today hoping to hook up with a DEC Econ officer tonight and get permission to take it out. What do you think the chances are that DEC will give him/us permission to take it out? If we take it out, I wonder if they'll let us keep it for mounting purposes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno C Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 well its not a native species to NY, so my guess is no tag needed? If the story is true and the DEC does not want it running around then i dont see why not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve863 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 My question would be why they assume an Ibex would breed with a deer?? This would be similar to a bighorn sheep breeding with a deer. Maybe a deer could produce young if inseminated by an Ibex in captivity, but I bet it's next to impossible in the wild. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deerthug Posted October 19, 2012 Author Share Posted October 19, 2012 I figured as well but I want something from ECon Officer to cover our a$$es in case we get pulled over on drive back down to LI with the Ibex laying in the back of my jeep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deerthug Posted October 19, 2012 Author Share Posted October 19, 2012 My question would be why they assume an Ibex would breed with a deer?? This would be similar to a bighorn sheep breeding with a deer. Maybe a deer could produce young if inseminated by an Ibex in captivity, but I bet it's next to impossible in the wild. As I understand it there were two that escaped - not sure if both male or one was female. But the male has been spotted on our land. None of the locals or DEC have seen the female. I guess they don't want the two hooking up and having a family. Would be fun though to take one . I could always tell people as I'm pointing to it on my wall "Oh yeah I took him out when I was on my trip to the mountains of Turkey" LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muthers Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 (edited) I don't know anything regarding the DEC letting you take it, but I do know that a goat and a deer might be able to "mate"...but no baby 'geer' or 'doats' would come around in the spring. I really hope that isn't the excuse the DEC used when they said they wanted to take it out haha ...It would be pretty great if they gave you the go-ahead to take a crack at it. Edited October 19, 2012 by Muthers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StripedBuck Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 (edited) It would make a great mount! Edited October 19, 2012 by StripedBuck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deerthug Posted October 19, 2012 Author Share Posted October 19, 2012 Not sure how big he is as I have not seen it but yes It certainly would be a great mount!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Thats cool I say let them breed More meat on the table, good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deerthug Posted October 19, 2012 Author Share Posted October 19, 2012 I agree Dom. Us Greeks like to eat Lamb and Goat . . . (Steve863 - BE NICE!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexingtonlegend Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Where upstate did they loose them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deerthug Posted October 19, 2012 Author Share Posted October 19, 2012 I believe it was from a farm in Northern Dutchess just below the Columbia County line near 9G. There is a farm that raises buffalo, elk, ibex and some other exotic animals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 The ones that don't eat these animals just don't know what they are missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve863 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I agree Dom. Us Greeks like to eat Lamb and Goat . . . (Steve863 - BE NICE!) OK, I'll be good, but Pygmy isn't making any promises. I bet an adult Ibex is as tough as shoe leather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I never had a tough burger or stew.It all comes down to the way its cooked 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinsdale Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I had ibex loin in Spain; it was very good. There are something like 20 varieties in SCI's book. Theres a bunch of goat farms around here, I'd be more inclined to think thats what they ment. A goat is not going to breed a deer as many have stated here. As to shooting, there was a Red deer around Pine Plains/Gallatin area a few years ago and the green light was given to shoot on sight by anyone. But sometimes these can get sticky with livestock ownership. Someone shot an angus steer that was loose out by me, and they had to pay the owner for it. I had 2 pigs get out and told everyone to blast away, but they came back 2 days later and went back to their pen. Guess corn is sweeter than wintered over acorns and such. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HectorBuckBuster Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 In Tompkins County a few years ago someone cut a fence and let out a bunch of Buffalo . A couple guys shot on of them near Mecklenburg and they got in big trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deerthug Posted October 19, 2012 Author Share Posted October 19, 2012 In Tompkins County a few years ago someone cut a fence and let out a bunch of Buffalo . A couple guys shot on of them near Mecklenburg and they got in big trouble. Thats why you need to get permission from DEC to take them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Yeah, I think that just because an animal is in the wild, unattended to, does not mean that they are free to shoot. I'm pretty sure that special permissions have to be arranged before anyone can shoot escaped critters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTF Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 I think we need to call Jim Shockey on this one, he'll know what to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 I agree Dom. Us Greeks like to eat Lamb and Goat . . . (Steve863 - BE NICE!) The wife and I spent 3 weeks on Cyprus this past August . We had lamb , goat and rabbit . The goat was tasty . Good luck getting permission to take it out ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygmy Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 I agree Dom. Us Greeks like to eat Lamb and Goat . . . (Steve863 - BE NICE!) You say you want to "take it out"..... What do you want to do, SHOOT the critter, or DATE it ??.... As far as DEC is concerned, since it is a non-native species, I suspect it is a civil matter, rather than an Encon matter. It would be considered property, rather than a game animal. A few years ago a red stag escaped from a local preserve during deer season (poor timiing). A hunter shot it and the owner tried to collect the carcass from the guy who shot it, but he would not give it up. Since the beast was an unregulated game animal and was far from the property where it belonged, the owner did not have a leg to stand on, and the hunter kept the animal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four Season Whitetail's Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 I would say its take it out on sight. Farmers need to keep their...Livestock.. Behind the fence! I know at times some assclown cuts a fence and lets them out but any other reason is unacceptable. I would take it out without a second thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deerthug Posted October 20, 2012 Author Share Posted October 20, 2012 Well I didnt get the call from my BIL yet to see if he hooked up with DEC. I'm sitting by the phone waiting for his call. LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygmy Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 By the way, I ain't GREEK, but I love lamb,,, I only ate goat once, on a business trip to Monterrey, Mexico in 1977. I went to a restaurant with a few people from the plant I was working at. The menu offered a hind leg from a kid goat. I ordered it, and it was very good..I would compare the flavor to domestic rabbit.. I also remember that the cerveza frio was excellent, and the senoritas were BEAUTIFUL... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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