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[Guns&ReligionCop]

This was posted on the harvest thread but since thats not the right forum for discussion I decided to start this to see peoples responses. The shooter said it was walking towards him and he aimed at the front of the chest and it jumped the bow string. When questioned about the high risk shot he said something along the lines of "FU you never missed a shot, I didn't pay $100 for a license to watch them walking by me" Opinions?

[Dad 6424]

All though it looks like a bad shot and the person that did this my be a shooter more so then a hunter dead is dead and frezzer meat is on the ground it my not be a shot you or I might take but it got the job done congrats to the SHOOTER

[irish_redneck]

I was suprised at the amount of "good Jobs" and the lack of "you moron"'s , In my opinion that is a shot that should never be taken, people were outraged at the thread with the skull with eye socket arrow... why not this. I didn't get it.

Edited November 6, 2012 by irish_redneck

[fasteddie]

I would say the shooter has poor hunting ethics . A head on shot is high risk and many of the hunting gurus would pass on that shot . So9meone needs an attitude adjustment !

[irish_redneck]

Dead is lucky with this shot, it could just have easily, (or even more easily) been an injured deer in agony.

[Paula]

I was suprised at the amount of "good Jobs" at the lack of "you moron"'s , In my opinion that is a shot that should never be taken, people were outraged at the thread with the skull with eye socket arrow... why not this. I didn't get it.

i was wondering the same thing

[jjb4900]

Bad shot's happen.......to put it out there for all to see without cleaning it up a little is another story. Had a similar incident happen to me, kinda kept it to myself.

[irish_redneck]

If you were taking a broadside shot and it happens to deflect and cause this... fine, but he was aiming at a deer that was walking towards him, I understand that things can accidentally happen... but this was pretty intentional.

[tughillhunter]

Looks and sounds like the adrenaline got the best of him. Dead and in the freezer, great. But damn lucky. Like i said in another thread, patience pays off. Wait for the broadside. Its not like the deer would have walked right to him, he woulda veered of somewhere.(i would assume.)

[irish_redneck]

A few days ago I had a 10pt broadside at 15 yards, only problem was that there was a cedar tree between he and I , I could see him through the branches but couldn't coax him into turning and coming into my lane. The devil on my shoulder was telling me to just fling an arrow his way and try to slip it between the branches. Thankfully I was able to ignore the thought for fear of what may happen should the arrow deflect, instead I sat there quietly cursing as I watched him walk away.

I may have been able to pull it off, but the odds weren't in my favor and it would not have been ethical to try. The deer will hopefully come back to the same spot some time when my climber is positioned in a tree 20 yards further north

[tughillhunter]

A few days ago I had a 10pt broadside at 15 yards, only problem was that there was a cedar tree between he and I , I could see him through the branches but couldn't coax him into turning and coming into my lane. The devil on my shoulder was telling me to just fling an arrow his way and try to slip it between the branches. Thankfully I was able to ignore the thought for fear of what may happen should the arrow deflect, instead I sat there quietly cursing as I watched him walk away.

I may have been able to pull it off, but the odds weren't in my favor and it would not have been ethical to try. The deer will hopefully come back to the same spot some time when my climber is positioned in a tree 20 yards further north

We all have that lil bas*ard devil. Nice decision. Im sure he will be back.

[jjb4900]

I think there's a pretty high percentage of buck's who have had arrows flung at them, not because they offered good shot's, but because of what they have on top of their head's.............some people lack the ability to ignore the voice that tell's them to make bad decision's.

[Guns&ReligionCop]

Another thing I was curious about was the lack of penetration.

[irish_redneck]

My guess is that it slowed down passing through jaw, then again at sternum. Luckily he hit an artery otherwise it would not have been a kill just an injury.

[tughillhunter]

if it jumped the string, how did it hit its jaw? wouldnt have it hit the chest, or been lower, or am i just being a dummy?

[deerpassion]

bottom line is... the possibility for things to go wrong with a shot like that is inconceivable.... lucky is lucky, and thank god in this instance for the deers sake he was lucky and not wandering around with half a nose or missing an eye, or even worse, dead days later and never found...

[jjb4900]

if it jumped the string, how did it hit its jaw? wouldnt have it hit the chest, or been lower, or am i just being a dummy?

I think, when a deer "jumps the string", they actually move downward before they take off......

[irish_redneck]

if it jumped the string, how did it hit its jaw? wouldnt have it hit the chest, or been lower, or am i just being a dummy?

I've had deer both jump or duck at release. My guess is this one ducked... think of the legs all angling outwards and head going down with a "what was that" expression in the eyes When I used nybuckboys old Oneida Eagle as my starter bow , it was loud and slow.. so an expression I saw more than once

[tughillhunter]

gotcha

[chiefbkt]

I can be accused of saying "good shot" on the harvest thread, but it was meant with sarcasm. I know it's tough to tell from words on a screen when something is sarcastic. I will agree that is a shot that most experienced ethical hunters would not take. My guess is that he is fairly new to bow hunting, buck fever set in, and he panicked rather than waiting for a good shot opportunity. Needless to say, if you do shoot a deer like that, take the arrow out and then take pictures. Or don't post pictures of the deer with the arrow stuck in its mouth and neck. This way you can completely avoid the criticism.

[5.9cummins]

if it jumped the string, how did it hit its jaw? wouldnt have it hit the chest, or been lower, or am i just being a dummy?

I find it hard to believe he jumped the string but then i think back to the second buck i ever shot at.

I was sitting in a stand along a tractor path in front of a big block of apples on my left and big thicket of spruce on my right that deer bed in. I had laid down a scent line walking down the tractor trail through the bedding area to my stand. I had also stuck a scent canister on one of the apple trees at 15 yards.

I was sitting in my stand watching a couple bucks running a doe in the apples when i caught movement out of the corner of my eye. I turned slowly to see a huge 6 point with a snow white rack nose to the ground following my trail. As he passed my stand i drew when his head was behind some grass nose still to the ground. He stopped at my scent wick and as soon as his nose touched it he stiffened right up, legs locked and hair standing up (he smelled me on the wick). He was at 15 yards quartering away.

I took the shot.

Shooting my dads 1973 Fred Bear Whitetail II i watched as the buck dropped and loaded his legs to jump and had he jumped forward i would have cleanly missed. Instead he pivoted back to his right directly into the path of the arrow. I watched as the arrow drove right into the base of his neck / upper back just above the shoulder blades (spine). Only he didn't drop (obviously impacted bone but did not sever the spine).

I watched as he ran up hill 40 yards to the other tractor trail and stood there for 15-20 seconds with my arrow sticking straight up out of the back of his neck. I am not sure if the broad-head even fully penetrated. He then took off back down the trail he came. I tracked him for 400 yards before completely loosing blood.

Now i am sure that anyone that saw that arrow in that deer would have thought what a horrible shot. Who the $%#% would have taken that shot. But i am also sure that i am not the only one who would have shot thinking that they had a good opportunity to harvest a magnificent deer.

I learned a lesson, don't shoot a spooked deer.

And for the record he did live. He was shot the next season opening weekend of gun season by the neighbor and was now a 4.5 year old 7pt. The neighbor wondered how i knew he had a broad head wound between his shoulder blades.

I replay that scene every year while i sit in a stand.

[WNYBuckHunter]

I said it in the harvest thread, but the hunter should take this as a lesson. Hes lucky to have killed the deer quickly rather than have it suffer and die later. Quartering to shots with a bow are usually bad news.

I had a shot op at a very big buck this year, but passed because it was head on. I took some heat from guys saying I should have shot him in the chest, but I just dont feel comfortable with that shot, which is why I did not take it.

[Steve7]

Poor judgement. Let him walk a little futher and take an ethical shot.

[irish_redneck]

The year before last I released on a buck , he ducked and I put it through his backstraps. He lived until I took him during rifle season, entry wound healed cleanly, exit wound was pretty infected. A friend always says to aim low, that people rarely shoot under but often shoot over, and at least if you shoot under it's more than likely a clean miss.

[Doewhacker]

Well first let me say stuff happens, we all know that. Second, none of us were there to witness it so who knows what angle the shot was. He never really said in the other thread what the angle was just that it was a bad shot and the deer may have jumped the string and he was aiming for the chest. A deer is fully capable of doing a complete 180 by the time an arrow travels 30 yards.

As far as the pic, that was and is bad taste and I see no reason why it needs to get posted in this thread either, those types of images are not good for our sport. Shame on you for reposting it here.

Also if it was a poor shot selection made on purpose than you can question ethics, if it was just a case of something bad happening how can you call into question a hunters ethics. Bottom line, none of us were there and don't know what went down.