arrow nocker Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 it would turn into a civil war against the govt.It would be the next step in the fall of this nation.Then china will step in to help control the out of control citizens and in the process proclaim its declaration to our country. Ever see the movie brave heart?remember when he died for his "freedom" What is free about them changing the constitution and taking the second amendment and forcing us to give them our guns? It will be tyranny and you will only be able to defend your selves with bats and clubs. The same amount of murders will still happen and most women and weaker people will be more vulnerable to the criminals than the ones that were armed in the past. If you wanted to protect your kids you would have to fight for your right to legally poses a firearm! I am a member of NRA but lets hope they can keep it from getting so far out of control that the country goes into tyranny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNY_Whitetailer Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 With the hysteria running wild, what about the LEO that just goes to a door for a simple noise complaint and gets a couple rounds of 00 buck through the door because someone thinks that we want his guns. I never want someone to think that every police officer wants his or her guns. Never, ever do I want to collect any guns from law biding citizens...It would be a suicide mission. I understand that there are risks in my chosen profession but that would be a little more than I signed up for. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felonious_Monk Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 With the hysteria running wild, what about the LEO that just goes to a door for a simple noise complaint and gets a couple rounds of 00 buck through the door because someone thinks that we want his guns. I never want someone to think that every police officer wants his or her guns. Never, ever do I want to collect any guns from law biding citizens...It would be a suicide mission. I understand that there are risks in my chosen profession but that would be a little more than I signed up for. First, let me express my gratitude for choosing a profession of honorable service. Now, please, if you are ever ordered to confiscate firearms from the citizens of NY, just go sit in the locker room. Refuse. Hold true to your oath to defend the Constitution. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooffer Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I refuse to get sucked into the world of the paranoid by the Timothy McVeigh types and those that would associate themselves with the mindset of the Ruby Ridge crew. Doc, what is the comment about Ruby Ridge? I watched the entire congressional investigation on CSPAN when that happened and think you need to read up on the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr VJP Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 What happened to them? When did liberalism turn into socialism? In reality, it always was Socialism. true Liberals are called Libertarians. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr VJP Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I refuse to get sucked into the world of the paranoid by the Timothy McVeigh types and those that would associate themselves with the mindset of the Ruby Ridge crew. Democracy is what we've got and Democracy is what I intend to stick with, and I am not yet ready to replace it with armed anarchy. I have no need or desire to begin sounding like some whacked out militia recruit. If we can't figure out how to keep our Democracy intact, then we probably don't deserve it. Ours is not a Democacy, it is a Republic. There is a difference. A Republic is run by the rule of law, not the rule of men. The law of our land is the Constitution, and if men try to take over our land against the Constitution, the Constitution gives us the right to fight them, with any and all means available to us. This is why men of evil intentions want to take away our guns. This is not paranoia or crazed militia thinking, it is the truth. It is all about power, the abuse of it and control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr VJP Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Short answer: No one. LOL! Yeah, this is all just political rhetoric. They aren't serious about it. Every encounter with any branch of law enforcement in the future, will be an opportunity for them to see if you have in any way violated these bans. If you give them reasonable cause to suspect you have, a search warrant will be issued and you will be arrested. This will be run the same way they seize drugs today. If you are in possession of one banned item, you willl be arrested and searched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13BVET Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 If anything, Ruby Ridge, and Waco, were examples of how the government is willing to do everything possible to get their way. That should have been a wake up call to gun owners right there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephmrtn Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Gun owners should have woke up many many years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-150 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 WHEN I WAS 13 YEARS OLD I SAW A SIGN IN THE SARDINIA NY ROD & GUN CLUB " IF GUNS ARE OUTLAWED, ONLY OUTLAWS WILL HAVE GUNS" IT TOOK A FEW YEARS BEFORE I UNDERSTOOD WHAT THIS MEANT. HOPEFULLY THIS NEVER COMES TRUE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Seems like a lot of the antis argument against guns (the latest being "Assault" rifles) is "you don't "Need one" or that a situation where you might need one will never happen. So these way wicked smart people not only know, better than you, what you need, but they can also see into the future. Their brains must be huge!! Bunch of arrogant stains. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Seems like a lot of the antis argument against guns (the latest being "Assault" rifles) is "you don't "Need one" or that a situation where you might need one will never happen. So these way wicked smart people not only know, better than you, what you need, but they can also see into the future. Their brains must be huge!! Bunch of arrogant stains. . The best answer to the "need" comment is to ask back if they would feel the same way if they were in the middle of a home invasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 The best answer to the "need" comment is to ask back if they would feel the same way if they were in the middle of a home invasion. OOOHHH!!! That could never happen!! LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Hillbilly Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 (edited) Watch out..........big brother may be watching here too! Edited January 12, 2013 by New York Hillbilly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Watch out..........big brother may be watching here too! I wonder how many "trigger words/phrases" on this thread alone have sent up red flags in the computers of the offices of homeland security? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 lots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erussell Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 With the hysteria running wild, what about the LEO that just goes to a door for a simple noise complaint and gets a couple rounds of 00 buck through the door because someone thinks that we want his guns. I never want someone to think that every police officer wants his or her guns. Never, ever do I want to collect any guns from law biding citizens...It would be a suicide mission. I understand that there are risks in my chosen profession but that would be a little more than I signed up for. I would be afraid of citizens wanting to collect your guns if I was you. Everyone knows what you guys carry in your trunks. They outlaw guns they will come for yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sits in trees Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 stop talkin and head to Albany, sat 19th... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmac491 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Is there a demonstration in Albany on the19th? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Might be too late by then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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