Governor Announces Support for Crossbows in NY

[Five Seasons]

Na just your reading comprehension skills...for I stated I was bartending that night...but since you mentioned it...... when in school the family owned dinner and I did waitress there....I bet Eddie would remember the place,,...across the road... kitty corner to Lucidol...Charlie Rose originally owned the place....

Of course you do know if it's confusing and you don't like "reading the book"...you could always skip my post.....Ahh but then your brain might explode...holding in those whitty comments...wouldn't want that would we...lol

You should work on punctuation and grammar before publishing grow. It won't affect upstate sales but the down staters will appreciate it

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[Five Seasons]

the time is near and so is the demise of nyb

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I'm not sure why you even care... You seem to spend more time hunting out of state than in, and appear to be happy with it. Did you stick one with a bolt last year? I don't remember.

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[Five Seasons]

The majority of people in NY don't like conservative Republican ideas, they have just gone to far right over the years, almost back to 1950s ideals. I myself don't really like them either, yea I like some of their ideas but man too much of their stuff has gone way over the top and they just seem to wanna serve the top. This is one of the biggest problems we face as gun owners in this state. We are tethered to a sinking ship.

Very much agree. They are being driven to much by the ultra conservative, when we would benefit more from a moderately conservative candidate. One that is more socially liberal and economically conservative would gain back those that have strayed left or neutral.

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[growalot]

You Kidding?...it's just for you now...well and a few that just can't get over it yet...makes me smile...

 

BTW...

 

The Party needs to higher better ppl to vet candidates.

That would be hire...missed that one earlier...

Edited January 11, 2014 by growalot

[BizCT]

I'm not sure why you even care... You seem to spend more time hunting out of state than in, and appear to be happy with it. Did you stick one with a bolt last year? I don't remember.

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I'll hunt ny archery season once they allow xbows. No, I didn't shoot one last year.

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[Five Seasons]

BTW...

That would be hire...missed that one earlier...

That was not me...

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[Doc]

I don't think New Yorkers would recognize a Conservative Republican if they saw one. My gosh ..... Pataki was labeled a Conservative Republican. Can you imagine that? It's crazy, anyone in NY that doesn't believe in give-away programs and cradle-to-grave welfare and income re-distribution is labeled a Conservative and the term is spit out like a curse-word here.

[growalot]

What was not you?.....lol

[landtracdeerhunter]

I don't think New Yorkers would recognize a Conservative Republican if they saw one. My gosh ..... Pataki was labeled a Conservative Republican. Can you imagine that? It's crazy, anyone in NY that doesn't believe in give-away programs and cradle-to-grave welfare and income re-distribution is labeled a Conservative and the term is spit out like a curse-word here.

Middle of the road, is all that can be expected from a Democratic state or country, for that matter.

[Doc]

Middle of the road, is all that can be expected from a Democratic state or country, for that matter.

Hell, even that (middle-o-the-road) would be a huge improvement over the socialist pinkos that keep getting thrown our way.

 

[Five Seasons]

Agreed. You're ignorant to think we would ever get a conservative base in this state. Best we can hope is not the extreme liberal.

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[bubba]

yeah lets settle for liberal light.  

[dbHunterNY]

Mid-term elections this Nov, vote out Cuomo and every other incumbent. One way or another they supported this crap on the State or Federal level and the new guy replacing them will still bring in the same pork to your district. It's the only way to send a broadband message to them.

 

Yes please vote... if don't you might as well sell off all your guns.  it will be like walking on thin ice or a ridiculous pain in the butt just to own them with these people still in office.

Edited January 13, 2014 by dbHunterNY

[dbHunterNY]

haha... FYI I've grown up around politics and if you use the word right, left, liberal, etc. you are ignorant!  politicians will usually support what/who they will to survive and remain in office.  the label doesn't mean crap.  being an educated voter that actually does their homework and votes is what counts.  heck Rensselaer county is as pro-gun as any yet the general voting population bought into the hipe of Kirsten Gillibrand was for guns.  She endorsed by the NRA and rode the image to win for congress.  then after she made it out of the county she's a US Senator for NY voting against guns every chance she gets!  Don't be fooled by those who jumped the SAFE Act ship due to backlash.  Vote for those that were with us the whole time or we'll get bit again.

Edited January 13, 2014 by dbHunterNY

[Culvercreek hunt club]

haha... FYI I've grown up around politics and if you use the word right, left, liberal, etc. you are ignorant! 

I don't agree. I don't believe the classifications they choose to register will define them as a politician BUT their voting record easily places them in the spectrum of fascism to communist/socialist. So words like liberal are easy to apply fairly accurately.

[dbHunterNY]

...didn't mean the hijacking.  same concept in posted applies to crossbows and other stuff.  politicians Cuomo included will take credit and support anything they can at the right time to survive.  if they truly cared anything about it, they would've pushed things sooner.  win over archery folk to offset gun folk, outside of that he could care less about a crossbows existence.

[Culvercreek hunt club]

Then he is barking up the wrong tree. From what I have seen here on the forum and heard in discussion amongst people I know, Inclusion of crossbows will piss off the hardened archery folks. I think it is more of an attempt to regain favor of the firearms hunters by letting the ones that do not bow hunt into bow season. Personally I don't think gun owners will be so easily bought off....at least I hope not.

[dbHunterNY]

I don't agree. I don't believe the classifications they choose to register will define them as a politician BUT their voting record easily places them in the spectrum of fascism to communist/socialist. So words like liberal are easy to apply fairly accurately.

 

that was generalized I know.  you've got it though, voting record hardly tells a lie.  I simply think people use the terms too much to answer a position on something without doing research.  if you think about it, those terms are subjective and differ with each person's idea of it.  sometimes by a little other times by a lot.  a voter should know where a candidate stands on this gun stuff before voting.  not just general election either primary's are even more important.  a party will back and push for someone to win a primary because they know they have a good chance to win, they might fit the mold mostly but not necessarily completely.  if the issue you care about is their exception then it doesn't look good.

 

[dbHunterNY]

Then he is barking up the wrong tree. From what I have seen here on the forum and heard in discussion amongst people I know, Inclusion of crossbows will piss off the hardened archery folks. I think it is more of an attempt to regain favor of the firearms hunters by letting the ones that do not bow hunt into bow season. Personally I don't think gun owners will be so easily bought off....at least I hope not.

 

I hope not too.

[Doc]

that was generalized I know.  you've got it though, voting record hardly tells a lie.  I simply think people use the terms too much to answer a position on something without doing research.  if you think about it, those terms are subjective and differ with each person's idea of it.  sometimes by a little other times by a lot.  a voter should know where a candidate stands on this gun stuff before voting.  not just general election either primary's are even more important.  a party will back and push for someone to win a primary because they know they have a good chance to win, they might fit the mold mostly but not necessarily completely.  if the issue you care about is their exception then it doesn't look good.

This coming election is one of the easiest ones on record when it comes to voting against those who have demonstrated a disdain for the 2nd Amendment. One year ago, we had the SAFE ACT passed where each of the candidates put their position on the record. One single vote told us all we have to know in terms of who are friends of gun owners. We have a thread called "Lest We Forget" on one of the gun legislation forums here that shows that voting record http://huntingny.com/forums/topic/17272-lest-we-forget/ . This could be called the "Lazy-man's election" for gun owners, because the hearts and minds of legislators regarding the 2nd Amendment is written down in black and white for us. It's going to be real easy this time around.

[landtracdeerhunter]

Relating back to the OP article, it starts with strong public support. Don't let the SAFE act cloud other important issues coming this year.Crossbow supporters do need the support from the state assembly, senate, and governor to get some sort of legislation passed to get crossbows back into a hunting season. Without the support from the governor, their is a good chance this legislation will go know where.

You're have your chance, we'll after several important pieces of legislation surface, to cast your votes.

Two can play the game but, their's only one winner

[phade]

Falling into the game of special interest as it pertains to law/regulations with no regard to fellow sportsman sucks. No offense, but the SAFE Act does cloud the bigger picture. And, rightly so.

 

Working with someone who is a career politician looking for a visible bone to throw to the public and doing so just so you can get xbow in play, is just as bad as the politician who backhandedly put NY under one of, if not the, strictest gun restrictions in the country.

 

"I don't care what you did, but if you give me xbow," I'll thank you and want to have your support. Sounds legit.

 

[Doc]

As far as I am concerned, the SAFE ACT is the ONLY issue this year. This is exactly what this little bone that Cuomo is throwing us is intended to do. It is an attempt to dilute the solidarity that this issue now enjoys. It is a piece offering to soften the focused opposition that the SAFE ACT has drawn. It remains to be seen whether this veiled attempt works on us or not. This is not a time for pacifism, little thank-you notes and cozying up to the known enemies of the 2nd Amendment. Yes I hear all the talk about making nice-nice to these people that a mere one year ago slapped our faces and have been so-far rubbing our noses in it in the courts, and then hoping that we can somehow re-kindle the focus of opposition to these very same people.

 

Those people do not need our gratitude for anything. Their motives are clear and far from honorable, and they will undoubtedly continue on that course with or without our bowing and groveling thanks. They believe that they are putting something over on us (and maybe they are). If you really think you have something to be thankful for, just understand what the real price for this is. I'll guarantee you that Cuomo and his partners have already fixed that price.

 

I am hoping that the bitter resentment that most gun owners feel against these politicians will result in enough passion to create new voters that have never voted before in their lives. I am looking for enough resentment of that midnight raid on our rights to make gun owners put aside prior commitments to be sure to get to the polls to vote those gun-grabbers out. I don't want any of that to be watered down with gratitude for anything that Cuomo does between now and that next election.

[Don_C]

Well said Doc.

 

 

[growalot]

Testing waters....He has several more scarves up his sleeve and as he pulls them out one at a time he's just testing the waters....the biggest scarf he pulls will be the one he attempts to wrap around ppls wallets thus their eyes...unfortunately it will be like  the one lady justice now wears and will tip the scale in the wrong direction