Screw in steps

[faust1578]

Anyone ever get caught using screw in steps on state land? What's the penalty?

[L. I. Yankee]

Damages the tree

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[faust1578]

I realize it damages trees. Thank u for that. So do bugs, storms, Mother Nature in general. My question is what's the penalty? I would rather hang a stand and use detachable steps than go in with my climber.

[jjb4900]

so if doing something that is against the regulations comes with an affordable fine, you're willing to do it?......priceless.

[faust1578]

I am being upfront about it! Hunters use them all over the place! What are you some sort of treehugger jjb4900 ok to kill animals but let's not harm a tree, give me a break.

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[fasteddie]

I am being upfront about it! Hunters use them all over the place! What are you some sort of treehugger jjb4900 ok to kill animals but let's not harm a tree, give me a break.

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You ask a question and then insult a person that responds with a legitimate answer ? You can do it on private land but not state land . You can't cut trees or limbs on state land either . It appears that you are trolling for an argument . 

[faust1578]

You guys are trying discuss ethics. I am asking a simple question.

[jjb4900]

I don't know the penalty for something like that, you're best bet would be to call DEC and ask..........or just pick up a set of compact climbing sticks, they go up just as quick and with less effort than screw in steps, why risk a fine and whatever else may come along with getting caught?

[Five Seasons]

I'll answer your question. It's probably <$200 and first offense probably wont revoke any license. I don't see it in the same light as baiting, poaching, not tagging etc. But it is still a rule. All that being said we've used screw ins for 40+ years and never killed a tree. Back them out a little every season and they're fine. Let a stand go once and the pine just swallowed them whole and it's doing fine.

 

Pricey, but look into some lone wolf climbing sticks. They're much more portable than the cheap sticks and much easier to use.

[WNYBuckHunter]

We use screw in steps, bow hangers, etc on private land. Has never killed a tree, but we do not use them in trees that the land owner may sell for timber.

[faust1578]

Hey Thank you guys $200 is steep I am using muddy sticks right now I am carrying in 6 of them. Trees in the area I am bowhunting are hard to get into with a climber. Not supposed to cut trees either. Really trying to lighten the load had back surgery couple of years ago. Tried a ground blind not feeling it. But once again thanks not trying to pick a fight.

[Culvercreek hunt club]

Hey Thank you guys $200 is steep I am using muddy sticks right now I am carrying in 6 of them. Trees in the area I am bowhunting are hard to get into with a climber. Not supposed to cut trees either. Really trying to lighten the load had back surgery couple of years ago. Tried a ground blind not feeling it. But once again thanks not trying to pick a fight.

 How about the strap on steps?

 

Also. besides the fine they can hammer you with the anticipated market value of the tree as well.

Edited November 24, 2014 by Culvercreek hunt club

[faust1578]

Who makes those?

[Culvercreek hunt club]

 http://www.bowhuntingoutlet.com/folding-rope-tree-step.html?&gclid=CPLp1bHYk8ICFSho7AodKFYAEg

 

Edited November 24, 2014 by Culvercreek hunt club

[faust1578]

http://www.bowhuntingoutlet.com/folding-rope-tree-step.html?&gclid=CPLp1bHYk8ICFSho7AodKFYAEg

Hey thanks never seen those gonna give em a shot

[Culvercreek hunt club]

I like climbing sticks but these gotta be easier to carry.

[ncountry]

Screw in steps, most of the time, affect the life of the tree very little. barring any disease . Screwing a step into a nice young maple for example will ruin its future timber value though. I would use my head in what type of tree and where I used screw in steps, private or public land..Never let the tree grow around them. Not only is it hard on equipment , but dangerous to a future Sawyer. Imagine a circular mill catching one of those? Yikes!

[Five Seasons]

Hey Thank you guys $200 is steep I am using muddy sticks right now I am carrying in 6 of them. Trees in the area I am bowhunting are hard to get into with a climber. Not supposed to cut trees either. Really trying to lighten the load had back surgery couple of years ago. Tried a ground blind not feeling it. But once again thanks not trying to pick a fight.

 

totally hear you. Started hunting public land this year as I moved and bought a summit viper. It's a lot of work and sweat. Not to mention good approach trails. It's hard work. But I'm not sure there's another option...

[faust1578]

Yup I use a summit bullet backpacker by the time u get up that tree you are sweating pretty good! Even with the muddy sticks it takes a litte bit of work. In a perfect world we could leave our equipment in the woods and it would still b there when you went to your stand.

Edited November 24, 2014 by faust1578

[Culvercreek hunt club]

FYI , just heard back from a State Ranger I know. For screwing anything in a tree on State land. (cut/remove/injure a tree) is a Misdemeanor and the fine STARTS at $1,500. Can buy a ton of climbing sticks for that price.

[faust1578]

FYI , just heard back from a State Ranger I know. For screwing anything in a tree on State land. (cut/remove/injure a tree) is a Misdemeanor and the fine STARTS at $1,500. Can buy a ton of climbing sticks for that price.

Holy crap! That's insane wow I guess you can't even screw in a bowhanger!

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[Nomad]

I own Lone Wolf climbing sticks and love them ,Muddys as well but much more bulky to pack in.

Back when I started bow hunting never knew of screw in steps, made my own climbing blocks . Chunks of 2x4 with rope passed through a drilled hole. Easy to pack in , set up and use. Basically free as well.

[malesi1]

I am being upfront about it! Hunters use them all over the place! What are you some sort of treehugger jjb4900 ok to kill animals but let's not harm a tree, give me a break.

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Not trying to stir things up here, but I have an issue with the original question...If you know using screw in steps is illegal on state land, why even consider it. It really doesn't matter if "hunters do it all over the place", or "i'm OK killing animals, but not harm trees". 

 

My question is, if your willing to ignore this law on public land, what others are you willing to ignore? I don't mean to embarrass you, or call you out, but this kind of thinking is what can, (and does), give hunters a bad reputation. 

 

There is a reason for the law...even if you don't understand or agree with it.

[faust1578]

Really! You are trying to stir things up already explained myself! Get a life!

[faust1578]

As far as giving hunters a bad rep really how shallow are you! 10 rounds are bad but 7 are ok sheep is what you are my friend!