Young crab claw with great main beams....

[growalot]

for his age... Now later sometime I 'll address what I have experience on when it comes to two totally different areas and antler size...That said...before the farms moved in and before they realized soybeans grow great here... a young 4 would never have had beams like this....

[BizCT]

Could be a 6 with no brows, no?

[growalot]

No I have side view pic of him

[BizCT]

Oj

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[Hock3y24]

There was a 4 point almost identical to this that I would always see in Binghamton i81 on ramp (exit 6) after hunting last year.

[growalot]

Years ago  we had one and then the following year he turned into a big bodied 6pt,short brows .. a nice looking deer...I passed him because I had gone to my personal 8pt target. Also it was opening day of gun and right at legal shooting time...neighbors brother shot him 5 mins later  then never went to see if he hit him...I found him in our creek after season just 70 or so yards from the guys stand. I haven't seen one like it until now...hope he makes it I am curious as to what he will turn into.

[growalot]

I am not so sure how young this buck is now he is looking bigger body size during the day pics than the night ones What do you think?....Seems to be the only boy on the place...

[growalot]

Huh I just took a second look at those..it's the same day...is it the same buck?

[growalot]

That was a serious question...I've shown this to a few ppl...they all seem to think it is two different buck what do you think.. what are the chance there would be two big 4's like that on the property?

[DirtTime]

Huh I just took a second look at those..it's the same day...is it the same buck?

It doesn't look like the same buck. The horns on the 2nd pic look thicker, but, I am probably wrong. 

[greensider]

looks like a 2 year old

[WNY Bowhunter]

Two different deer no doubt about it!!!

[growalot]

Gosh I hope that's not going to be as eliminate trait...though for me it will definitely assure they'll get some age on them...

[wooly]

Looks like the same one to me by that deep curl on his right antler noticeable in both the day and night shots..

I'd put him at 1.5 if I saw him here, but he may be different in your woods.

[SCbklyn]

Not same deer IMO. Bottom one has more mass.

[DirtTime]

Not same deer IMO. Bottom one has more mass.

I think grow is talking about the 2 color pics. Same day, but don't look like the same buck. One has a thicker rack diameter then the other. Also a few more inches.

[growalot]

That was dominate trait...not eliminate trait...Kindle. (eye roll)

Hahaha..God's way of saying don't get too up set about not hunting buck the first two weeks here...this is all you have ...big 4 pts...

[Husker5]

Looks to be a older genetically inferior buck.. definitely one to cull from the herd before he can pass it on

[growalot]

That wouldn't be the case here...

[eagle rider]

got a whole family of crabbies out East LI area.  The best of the lot I've seen on my cameras is a big 12.  He had the body of a 5 year old on him.  A true tank.  No day time pics of him ever.  Truth be told I haven't seen him on  camera in two seasons so he maybe gone.  But he's definitely a P&Y deer so I doubt he was taken legally if he's gone.  He sure made a lot of does happy because there is a bunch of 2 and 3 year olds with crab claw racks out that way.  

[bkln]

No way it's the same deer look at the size of the splits.... Grow, You got more "gents" than you thought :-)

[NFA-ADK]

Hopefully your doe will draw in a roaming adult buck!  Otherwise I would keep them!