November 20th

[fearthebeard]

Just shot my first buck last year should I keep stand where it is or move it , also should I prepare myself like I'm gonna be hunt the post rut or peak rut for the rifle opener? And when should I start exploring to find rub lines and are they better to hunt over then primary scrapes thank you all .

[bkln]

You just shot a buck there, why move it? Leave it where it is, apparently it was successful. Just don't over hunt it.

[First-light]

Funny but I can remember years ago when I first started out figuring where I needed to move my stand. Later in life my stand seems to stay put. Not that I'm too old to move but why break something that aint broke…….always get a shot at a big one from that stand. (connecting is the hard part) lol

[genesee_mohican]

I would leave the stand where it is since you had success there last year. If the property is large enough you may want to think about putting up a second stand in another area as a back up. As far as the rut goes, there could be an estrus doe around at anytime in November so be prepared for anything and sit all day if you can.

[G-Man]

Is it your only stand? Is the food availability the same, was the buck chasing ,eating , just walking, land logged, sold, new hunter on neighboring properties, a lots of factors to think of the best spot may be 50 yards over, one lucky hunt does not a permanent stand location make imo.

[fearthebeard]

You just shot a buck there, why move it? Leave it where it is, apparently it was successful. Just don't over hunt it.

. Well last year it was standing corn this year it's soy so I didn't know if being 20 yards inside the wood line would be better or worse

[ants]

Leave it.

[The_Field_Ager]

Here's what ya do:  Scout the area and find some new sign, than take down and heft the stand to take advantage of the new scouting data. Then second guess yourself, begin to have doubts, and move the stand back to it's original position. That's what I like to do anyway.  

[ncountry]

I agree with the others. leave it.  Time in the woods will tell you if it should be 20 yds over or in another spot entirely. Do not over use it ,  and only when the wind is right..

[fearthebeard]

I agree with the others. leave it. Time in the woods will tell you if it should be 20 yds over or in another spot entirely. Do not over use it , and only when the wind is right..

so don't sit in it all day opening day ? I have limited space to work with but I do have options the key to the other options is what path there taking to the food plot I found a huge primary scrape last year that all year I had pics of differnt bucks and does hitting on during all phases of the rut think it will be aroun the same place this year ?

[ncountry]

so don't sit in it all day opening day ? I have limited space to work with but I do have options the key to the other options is what path there taking to the food plot I found a huge primary scrape last year that all year I had pics of differnt bucks and does hitting on during all phases of the rut think it will be aroun the same place this year ?

 

Oh no! if it was me I would sit  all day.... Imo .5 days in a row... probably not.   .              As long as your wind is good ,I think often more harm is done coming and going from the stand, leaving scent on the ground and bumping deer... Even though, I have areas that I absolutely will not touch until the rut..

[gjs4]

A mature buck does things with reason or he wouldn't have made that age. What's the reason? Pressure, wind, time of year, time of rut.... Are you hunting a specific buck or deer? Scout and then plan not plan then hope

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[fearthebeard]

A mature buck does things with reason or he wouldn't have made that age. What's the reason? Pressure, wind, time of year, time of rut.... Are you hunting a specific buck or deer? Scout and then plan not plan then hope

Not really I know the area well been hunting it a long time my problem is I find all the scrapes no rubs keep in mind I just shot my first buck I had two opportunitys before that but I knew someone was huntin in that direction and didn tKe the shot

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[gjs4]

As stated in the other thread- try to figure out what the buck is making the rubs for and use that to take the next step. I would not hunt them. Scrapes are best to hunt during mid October and mid November. Best thing you can do is stay out of the woods and set up an observation stand to watch the deer without them knowing. Learn them that way. If you use cams be selective when you go near them and take every bit of info from them - pair it with the day's weather and conditions and log everything. Hunt one buck not areas and you'll be far ahead on 90% of New Yorks whitetail pursuers

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[fearthebeard]

As stated in the other thread- try to figure out what the buck is making the rubs for and use that to take the next step. I would not hunt them. Scrapes are best to hunt during mid October and mid November. Best thing you can do is stay out of the woods and set up an observation stand to watch the deer without them knowing. Learn them that way. If you use cams be selective when you go near them and take every bit of info from them - pair it with the day's weather and conditions and log everything. Hunt one buck not areas and you'll be far ahead on 90% of New Yorks whitetail pursuers

Thank u for all the information also I seem to be getting a lot of does with their new borns and I dot know if that's a positive or negative still setting up cameras trying to find the Bucks I'm not new at hunting I just like learning and getting better and take no advice for granted

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[gjs4]

If you know where does are hunt down wind of them first and third weeks of November. Where fawns are - Hunt down wind the first week of December.

[G-Man]

. Well last year it was standing corn this year it's soy so I didn't know if being 20 yards inside the wood line would be better or worse

Standing corn is a lot different than soybean, it provides cove ,by time season comes the bean will either be picked or about to be picked, you won't like going to the stand and having a cut field or one that is being cut while your I. The tree, why not put in the effort and see where entrance trails are and back track them into the woods closer to bedding or travel coridors, field hunting is ok if you want to see deer ,but it's much more effective to get a deer that you may see coming, than see deer that you can't get.

[fearthebeard]

Standing corn is a lot different than soybean, it provides cove ,by time season comes the bean will either be picked or about to be picked, you won't like going to the stand and having a cut field or one that is being cut while your I. The tree, why not put in the effort and see where entrance trails are and back track them into the woods closer to bedding or travel coridors, field hunting is ok if you want to see deer ,but it's much more effective to get a deer that you may see coming, than see deer that you can't get.

I've figured out where they bed down but everything I've read and heard was to stay away from there or u will chase the buck away the hard part for me is where to set up when I know someone's gonna push on opening day and I've done all my homework and really put the work in to hunt a curtain buck don't get me wrong it helps pass the time but these guys don't care they literally walked under my stand 5 or 6 times last year I was very friendly almost like they were tryin to upset me they are all from up north and come down for a week and push the whole time

[NFA-ADK]

Tough hunting state land in the south.  Slob hunters that ruin hunts or take stands and cameras can be a big issue. 

 

I would make sure the stand is moved so they do not know where you are.  I would put it back in the woods enough so I have some shooting lanes to cover the field.  I would hunt the primary scrape at that time.  Good luck! 

 

Congrats on your first deer, that's awesome!  Any pics?

[GreeneHunter]

Leave it !

[G-Man]

Deer drives can be very effective, you just need to find the escape routes ( the smart big bucks double back between drivers) don't get discouraged if the army goes right under your stand, we drive late muzzleloader and can take many deer by sanders but the drivers seem to get more as we have enough drivers when the deer double back they run into out traiLing drivers. I have a opening day stand that has produced 54 deer since 1995, it's good for opening day only and only till 10 am, it uses surrounding hunter movement and watches an escape funnel. It took 2 years to figure out where to have it exactly ( was 50 yrds to far away from being in range of the buck escape trail but say right on th doe so a final tweet and you can cover both.) I've said it before 1 season does not a stand location make. It's not uncommon to see 30 to 50 deer from this spot before 10 am, and it just a matter of waiting for one big enough for your own satisfaction.

[fearthebeard]

Tough hunting state land in the south. Slob hunters that ruin hunts or take stands and cameras can be a big issue.

I would make sure the stand is moved so they do not know where you are. I would put it back in the woods enough so I have some shooting lanes to cover the field. I would hunt the primary scrape at that time. Good luck!

Congrats on your first deer, that's awesome! Any pics?

Yes I have pics i don't k ow how to post them on here it was a 4 pointer three on one side and a long beam on the other very proud of it though it wasn't my first deer though before the buck I've harvested a doe just about every year my dad always says u can't eat the horns but still feel like a got the monkey off my back

[fearthebeard]

Tough hunting state land in the south. Slob hunters that ruin hunts or take stands and cameras can be a big issue.

I would make sure the stand is moved so they do not know where you are. I would put it back in the woods enough so I have some shooting lanes to cover the field. I would hunt the primary scrape at that time. Good luck!

Congrats on your first deer, that's awesome! Any pics?

He hid under a bunch of dead pine tree took me an hour to find him funny part is he was only 50 yards away lol then I drug him into the field and dressed him

[HuntOrBeHunted]

If it looks like deer are in the area... Hunt on brother. We have a few stands built at camp that haven't moved in 10+ years but deer get nailed from it almost annually.

[NFA-ADK]

Nice buck!  Regardless of what you do, I hope you have a great year!  Good luck!