fasteddie Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I was going to load my Honda Foreman ATV on the trailer last night . Couldn't get it started . Kept the battery up and cranked it a lot but no good . It backfired a couple times which isn't good . Gave up . Tried to start it when I got home today and still no good . I siphoned the gas out and replaced with Ethanol Free gas ..... nada ! Pulled some covers off and yanked the spark plug . Lots of carbon ! Cleaned the plug as best I could and re-gapped the plug . Put it back and it almost started . Scooted up to the Polaris dealer and was able to get a plug . Gapped it , (said a prayer ) put it in and voila , it started right up . I thought I was going to have to haul the Honda to Canandaigua to have it repaired . I was using 87 octane gas that has 10 percent ethanol and adding the Marine Formula Sta-Bil but think I will stick with the Ethanol Free gas from now on . Anyway , I got lucky . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmg343 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Ethanol is the devil. You probably have a teaspoon of jelly in your carb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted November 19, 2015 Author Share Posted November 19, 2015 On 11/19/2015 at 1:26 AM, jmg343 said: Ethanol is the devil. You probably have a teaspoon of jelly in your carb. Maybe it needs some PB ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmg343 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Or cream cheese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted November 19, 2015 Author Share Posted November 19, 2015 I bought a 2008 Honda new the spring of 2009 . It has 34 run hours on it . I don't use it enough . No place to ride it around home . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmg343 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I prefer two wheels, but I sure could use a 4 wheeler when I shoot a deer. Dragging them up the hill back to my house is a female dog. Although it is good exercise which I can certainly use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted November 19, 2015 Author Share Posted November 19, 2015 I use the 4 wheeler and a sled . Havn't had any need for it this bow season . It would have been tough sledding if I had gotten a deer this am or down at my sister in laws in Geneseo . That's over 1/2 mile and it would be tough sledding ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) yeh stick with ethanol free. Dealer told me that if you don't run the machine all the time for long periods it gums up with reg gas. Edited November 19, 2015 by zag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I pull the carbs off the dirtbikes and snowmobile once a year to clean the yellow skin out of the float bowls , they just changed the pumps at the local Noco which means 91 ethanol for me ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted November 19, 2015 Author Share Posted November 19, 2015 Fastrack has the Ethanol Free gas . It's 40 cents more per gallon but worth it in the long run ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMMYTOOSONS Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 seafoam sold at wallyfworld.cant be beat been using it for years and never had any problems 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMMYTOOSONS Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 walmart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreeneHunter Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Same thing happened to my Chainsaw after a period of not using it ... I have a 5 gallon jug to which I add the Stabil now ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfdeputy2 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 add Seafoam to everything with a motor I own absolute best stuff on the market Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmg343 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Anytime you are done using something you own, that runs on gasoline, shut the fuel supply, after the tank and before the carb, and let the motor run until the machine dies. This will ensure a carb that is empty, and free of ethanol gas to sit and gum up your jets. This is really only necessary if the machine is going to sit for two weeks or more, but I do it all the time to all of my machines, excepting my cars and trucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckmaster7600 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 On 11/19/2015 at 12:43 PM, jmg343 said: Anytime you are done using something you own, that runs on gasoline, shut the fuel supply, after the tank and before the carb, and let the motor run until the machine dies. This will ensure a carb that is empty, and free of ethanol gas to sit and gum up your jets. This is really only necessary if the machine is going to sit for two weeks or more, but I do it all the time to all of my machines, excepting my cars and trucks.If you are using ethanol gas this is the worst thing you can do the alcohol dries out rubber when it has air in it "empty bowls." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmg343 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 aside from the occasional o-ring, what in your carburator is rubber? Gaskets are gaskets. The only rubber I can think of is an occasional o-ring or the tip of a crappy float needle. I replace all my float needles to get rid of rubber nipples and usually swith to Viton o-rings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Stabil is not an ethanol treatment guys. It wont protect your carbs and fuel lines from the damage it does. I use this stuff, have for years. I run ethanol gas in all of my stuff and have no issues as long as this is mixed in. I started using it after my father and I had to have 4 different carbs rebuilt and fuel lines replaced in our small engines. http://www.starbrite.com/en/startron 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) On 11/19/2015 at 1:33 PM, WNYBuckHunter said: Stabil is not an ethanol treatment guys. It wont protect your carbs and fuel lines from the damage it does. I use this stuff, have for years. I run ethanol gas in all of my stuff and have no issues as long as this is mixed in. I started using it after my father and I had to have 4 different carbs rebuilt and fuel lines replaced in our small engines. http://www.starbrite.com/en/startron Stabil sells an ethanol treatment, I was using it in my gas jugs at home until I could get corn free gas. Edited November 19, 2015 by Jeremy K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted November 19, 2015 Author Share Posted November 19, 2015 I was using the Starbrite and the manager at Tractor Supply said the Sta-Bil Marine Formula was better . After comparing what each one does in their ads , It appears Starbrite looks like the better choice . However , I plan to start using the Ethanol Free gas in most of my small engines from now on . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmg343 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Ive been told that if you dont have access to ethanol free gas, which I dont, your next best bet is 89 octane. I don't know the accuracy of this statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Eddie you're in Ontario right? The station at 104 and knickerbocker has ethanol free Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 and all FastTrak stations are Ethanol free in their Premium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted November 19, 2015 Author Share Posted November 19, 2015 On 11/19/2015 at 3:20 PM, Belo said: Eddie you're in Ontario right? The station at 104 and knickerbocker has ethanol free Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk That is the Fastrack station I am talking about . That's where I got the gas for my ATV . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted November 19, 2015 Author Share Posted November 19, 2015 The Premium non-ethanol is $2.46 per gallon . About 46 cents more per gallon than the 87 Octane . Since not that much is used , it's a good investment for small engines . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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