OK guy's Call your lawmakers

[arrowflinger]

The advantage of having it already drawn is so minute that its not worth mentioning

LMAO

[shu9265]

Always the problem.

Although we can all agree that crossbows should be allowed for those who need them, the water always gets muddied by those who want to extend the advantage to everyone, including those who definitely do NOT need them.

Jettison those leeches, and you got a case.

That is what I thought this thread was all about.  Contacting the powers that be in Albany to approve the

passage of the Bill that would allow "Disabled" archers to use crossbows during the regular season.

I saw No mention in the Bill about anyone else. Only Disabled Hunters

[sits in trees]

And that's exactly it. But, the main point of any x gun argument revolves aroung the premise that a x gun IS a bow, which it's not.

Correct.  It is not.  It is shouldered, aimed, and shot like a gun.

General season it is.

hey Slinger, your like bad gas, no one wants to smell you or hear you and you're more than likely backed up by alot of crap which your opinions show all too clearly   all you self righteous nudniks sitting hear flappin your gums about how some healthy guy might sneak by and get a crossbow permit, HAA! pretty soon theres going to be thousands of healthy guy's hunting your deer during bow season with crossbows, so stop wasting your time blowing this out of proportion. real hunters support this bill because it could get guy's with disabilities into the woods during bow season with a crossbow as soon as this year

[arrowflinger]

I saw No mention in the Bill about anyone else. Only Disabled Hunters

Not in the bill.

In this thread....... like sitsintrees. :

[wztirem]

Whether you choose to believe it or not, full inclusion of crossbows in archery season is coming. The inroduction of this bill is the first step in that process.

You can stop holding your breath now! :-*

[SteveB]

Mr Flinger - 5 or 6 oages and you haven't answered my question.

That is - what is your position with NYB if any?

[SteveB]

Spiker - same question to you.

Mr Flinger - 5 or 6 oages and you haven't answered my question.

That is - what is your position with NYB if any?

[arrowflinger]

Mr Flinger - 5 or 6 oages and you haven't answered my question.

That is - what is your position with NYB if any?

Its irrelevant, Mr B.

What is your affiliation with the American Crossbow Federation?

[shu9265]

Only affiliation I have is with disability and my fellow hunters.

[SteveB]

Mr Flinger - 5 or 6 pages and you haven't answered my question.

That is - what is your position with NYB if any?

Its irrelevant, Mr B.

What is your affiliation with the American Crossbow Federation?

Absolutely none - I hunt with a recurve in bow season.

Ashamed of your position?

Is that how you guys demonstrate leadership to encourage others to join?

Funny how most of those advocating the inclusion of all archery equipment in bow season don't

hide their identities, but many of the anti's prefer to be anonymous - why is that?

[nyantler]

As well.. I have no affiliation with any crossbow association either... so your turn Arrow.

I am a bowhunter that hunts with a recurve and will continue to.. I see no problem with crossbows entering the bow season

[arrowflinger]

As well.. I have no affiliation with any crossbow association either... so your turn Arrow.

I am a bowhunter that hunts with a recurve and will continue to.. I see no problem with crossbows entering the bow season

I am a bowhunter that has hunted with compounds and recurves.

I am associated with NYB and P&Y, and by association, NABC.

I think anyone physically able to use a bow but chooing a crossbow instead is a pathetic lazy slob.

[SteveB]

Association = rep or higher?

[wztirem]

As well.. I have no affiliation with any crossbow association either... so your turn Arrow.

I am a bowhunter that hunts with a recurve and will continue to.. I see no problem with crossbows entering the bow season

I am a bowhunter that has hunted with compounds and recurves.

I am associated with NYB and P&Y, and by association, NABC.

I think anyone physically able to use a bow but chooing a crossbow instead is a pathetic lazy slob.

Such a classless statement.

[SteveB]

As well.. I have no affiliation with any crossbow association either... so your turn Arrow.

I am a bowhunter that hunts with a recurve and will continue to.. I see no problem with crossbows entering the bow season

I am a bowhunter that has hunted with compounds and recurves.

I am associated with NYB and P&Y, and by association, NABC.

I think anyone physically able to use a bow but chooing a crossbow instead is a pathetic lazy slob.

Such a classless statement.

Similar to what an anti hunter would mutter. Just saying.

[WNYBuckHunter]

As well.. I have no affiliation with any crossbow association either... so your turn Arrow.

I am a bowhunter that hunts with a recurve and will continue to.. I see no problem with crossbows entering the bow season

I am a bowhunter that has hunted with compounds and recurves.

I am associated with NYB and P&Y, and by association, NABC.

I think anyone physically able to use a bow but chooing a crossbow instead is a pathetic lazy slob.

Were you the one to compare the top of the line crossbow to an old, used, midline Mathews to try and prove your point? LMAO

Seriously though, all of the questions asked of you have been relevant, you just wont answer because they either will not help your argument or will actually diminish it.

 

  By the way, never have I said that crossbows are the same as a compound,  or denied that they are a bit easier to shoot. In fact, I say that is  one reason to let them in to archery season. Not everyone has the time  to practice properly, and they are not lazy.

This whole thread speaks loudly about why many people think that you NYB guys are elitists.

Oh and I dont call "a spade a spade", that would be racist. Might want to watch what you type on a public forum. 

Just to refresh...

I  still have to draw my bow,  and @ 150# draw weight I had to improvise a  way to handle this.  I personally use a strap across my back and  shoulders to pull the string into place with a standing motion.

We are calling a spade a spade, right?

You do not have to draw your "bow."  I can do it for you, days in advance if necessary.

You can not draw mine for me....when it matters.

[arrowflinger]

 

  By the way, never have I said that crossbows are the same as a compound,  or denied that they are a bit easier to shoot. In fact, I say that is  one reason to let them in to archery season. Not everyone has the time  to practice properly, and they are not lazy.

You are contradicting yourself.  If they are only "a bit easier to shoot," then there should not be a significant difference in in "the time to practice properly" with a crossbow, meaning crossbowers would fare no better than a compounder who didn't have time to shoot. 

Your logic falls short...again.

 

Oh and I dont call "a spade a spade", that would be racist. Might want to watch what you type on a public forum. 

This is a weak attempt at humor, right?

[WNYBuckHunter]

 

  By the way, never have I said that crossbows are the same as a compound,  or denied that they are a bit easier to shoot. In fact, I say that is  one reason to let them in to archery season. Not everyone has the time  to practice properly, and they are not lazy.

You are contradicting yourself.  If they are only "a bit easier to shoot," then there should not be a significant difference in in "the time to practice properly" with a crossbow, meaning crossbowers would fare no better than a compounder who didn't have time to shoot. 

Your logic falls short...again.

No, it takes less practice to be proficient with a crossbow. End of story, nobody is denying that (at least Im not).

 

Oh and I dont call "a spade a spade", that would be racist. Might want to watch what you type on a public forum. 

This is a weak attempt at humor, right?

Actually no, its a racist remark.

[Culvercreek hunt club]

Always the problem.

Although we can all agree that crossbows should be allowed for those who need them, the water always gets muddied by those who want to extend the advantage to everyone, including those who definitely do NOT need them.

Jettison those leeches, and you got a case.

You seem to be hung on the term

advantage". I would propose that they do provide and advantage and to those that do have a disability this "advantage" would act as a equalizing feature allowing many to enjoy the sport we/they love. For your sake I hope you are never afflicted with a condition of live through an accident that puts you in a position of this need.

[arrowflinger]

No, it takes less practice to be proficient with a crossbow. End of story, nobody is denying that (at least Im not).

So if it takes less practice to be proficient, then it must be more than "a bit easier." 

Like I said....you are contradicting yourself. ;D

Actually no, its a racist remark.

It is not.  It refers to cards...would you feel more comfortable if we said "let's call a diamond a diamond" or "a club a club."

I will wait for your apology.

[arrowflinger]

You seem to be hung on the term

advantage". I would propose that they do provide and advantage and to those that do have a disability this "advantage" would act as a equalizing feature allowing many to enjoy the sport we/they love.

I agree.  I have no problem with that....allow it for those who need it.

Keep it illegal for those who do not.

[WNYBuckHunter]

No, it takes less practice to be proficient with a crossbow. End of story, nobody is denying that (at least Im not).

So if it takes less practice to be proficient, then it must be more than "a bit easier." 

Like I said....you are contradicting yourself. ;D

Actually no, its a racist remark.

It is not.  It refers to cards...would you feel more comfortable if we said "let's call a diamond a diamond" or "a club a club."

I will wait for your apology.

How am I contradicting myself when I am saying it is easier? You arent making sense.

No, it has no reference to cards, it began as a reference to shovels and took another turn in the American culture in the early 20th century. Go look up the origin of the saying.  :

[arrowflinger]

Nice edit to save your self from looking entirely foolish.  I see we were both wrong, but I was closer.  The phrase predates American Slavery by centuries.

Is it racist that you considered it racist?

[WNYBuckHunter]

I didnt edit that part, I added the first sentence.

[WNYBuckHunter]

It is still considered a racist remark.

No, Im not a racist, I discriminate equally.  ;D