Proposed Changes for 2016

[chas0218]

I have taken does with Crop Damage Permits in the summertime when it has been 80+ degrees with no problem and no spoilage .

 

$10 to apply for the anterless tags could really place a financial burden on a person after spending a few grand on guns , archery equipment , scopes , clothes , and a camp . 

What incentive would it be to shoot a doe if you have to pay for it when you get 2 buck tags?

 

I would still rather shoot a doe in 40-50 degree weather than 70*.

[Culvercreek hunt club]

What incentive would it be to shoot a doe if you have to pay for it when you get 2 buck tags?

 

 

becasue it was in range and I like backstraps...lol

[fasteddie]

What incentive would it be to shoot a doe if you have to pay for it when you get 2 buck tags?

 

 

 

Gee , 2 doe tags for $10 . That would really put someone in the Poor House ! 

 

Boycott the 1st 2 weeks of archery ...........

[Dom]

Gee , 2 doe tags for $10 . That would really put someone in the Poor House ! 

 

Boycott the 1st 2 weeks of archery ...........

We don't have to pay $10 per each tag yet but I for myself would spend/pay for each tag.$10 will only get you a gal of milk and loaf of bread so ten bucks for about 80lbs of mountain beef is a great pay out.

[Doc]

I look at charging anything for doe permit applications in a different way. I don't really care whether it is an easy expenditure for me? That really isn't even an relevant issue. The fact is that the government has proven over and over that the way to modify individual behavior is to tax it. It really doesn't matter how much. Just the fact that they have in fact taxed doe hunting in any amount will have the effect of diminishing the activity. It is an example of the DEC talking out of both sides of their mouths by trying to convince us that not enough does are being taken while taxing the activity at the same time.

[Larry]

This is a shorten version of the input letter I sent to the DEC.
1: mandatory reporting on all tags weather it’s used or unused for three years. With the penalty for not reporting a tag being lost of that privilege for the next year and you don’t find out till after you paid for that tag. This plan would do 2 things. It would validate the DEC modeling plan for the deer harvest and double the reporting rate.
2: no antler restrictions without a vote of hunters at the time of licenses purchase and a hunter can put his vote to the WMU he hunts in it doesn’t have to go in the WMU he lives.
3: keep the 2 buck limit but you have to turn in your first tag to get the second tag and that tag has up to a 4pt on one side minimum 
4: even though I don’t use one make the use of cross – bows legal though the whole bow season.
5: extend the late bow season in the southern zone to the first Wednesday after New Years
This is not in order of preference.  

[Fredbear2]

Mandatory reporting on all tags used or I unused . No . I pay extra for dmp's on top of my license fee . That already overboard. I call my tags in when I fill them. If I don't use them I throw out at the end of the season . Full use of crossbow waiting for that before I buy a good one. Only time on that .

[shawnhu]

Mandatory reporting on all tags used or I unused . No . I pay extra for dmp's on top of my license fee . That already overboard. I call my tags in when I fill them. If I don't use them I throw out at the end of the season . Full use of crossbow waiting for that before I buy a good one. Only time on that .

You pay extra for DMP's, so you feel you don't need to help the DEC understand how many deer were actually harvested? Real good logic there.

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[Larry]

with less then 45% of hunters reporting there kills how can they do there job if we don't do ares

[Lawdwaz]

This is a shorten version of the input letter I sent to the DEC.

1: mandatory reporting on all tags weather it’s used or unused for three years. With the penalty for not reporting a tag being lost of that privilege for the next year and you don’t find out till after you paid for that tag. This plan would do 2 things. It would validate the DEC modeling plan for the deer harvest and double the reporting rate.

2: no antler restrictions without a vote of hunters at the time of licenses purchase and a hunter can put his vote to the WMU he hunts in it doesn’t have to go in the WMU he lives.

3: keep the 2 buck limit but you have to turn in your first tag to get the second tag and that tag has up to a 4pt on one side minimum 

4: even though I don’t use one make the use of cross – bows legal though the whole bow season.

5: extend the late bow season in the southern zone to the first Wednesday after New Years

This is not in order of preference.  

 

Some good thoughts here.

[stoneam2006]

This is a shorten version of the input letter I sent to the DEC.

1: mandatory reporting on all tags weather it’s used or unused for three years. With the penalty for not reporting a tag being lost of that privilege for the next year and you don’t find out till after you paid for that tag. This plan would do 2 things. It would validate the DEC modeling plan for the deer harvest and double the reporting rate.

2: no antler restrictions without a vote of hunters at the time of licenses purchase and a hunter can put his vote to the WMU he hunts in it doesn’t have to go in the WMU he lives.

3: keep the 2 buck limit but you have to turn in your first tag to get the second tag and that tag has up to a 4pt on one side minimum

4: even though I don’t use one make the use of cross – bows legal though the whole bow season.

5: extend the late bow season in the southern zone to the first Wednesday after New Years

This is not in order of preference.

I hate antler restrictions personally but not a bad list at all

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Edited February 1, 2016 by stoneam2006

[Four Season Whitetail's]

No late season hunting. Antler drop on some bucks. Does bred. If you cant get it done by Dec 1st in the North and end of Dec in the South you probably are not going to get it done.

[Lawdwaz]

No late season hunting. Antler drop on some bucks. Does bred. If you cant get it done by Dec 1st in the North and end of Dec in the South you probably are not going to get it done.

 

It's managed to work in PA for many years and is even later than what is proposed here.

[Fredbear2]

I do my part . I buy my license and buy ' pay extra for dmp's . When I harvest my deer I call them in. If there is 45% that don't well I can't help that. Your logic on manditory to me won't work . Sorry for our differences on that.

[bubba]

So how many have actually submitted their opinions? Just curious

[Doc]

So how many have actually submitted their opinions? Just curious

Mine went out this morning.

[Five Seasons]

So how many have actually submitted their opinions? Just curious

 

me. I have little faith it'll do anything though.

[Dom]

How about a no big game season for the entire State including farm/dmps?In exchange you get to hunt squirrels/pheasants unlimited 

[Doc]

me. I have little faith it'll do anything though.

But we still have to try. I can't in all good conscience whine about issues here on a forum and then not even participate in the when asked to offer up a simple opinion when they have solicited it. Somehow that doesn't sit too well with me. I can't really make a judgment on whether any of it will be paid attention to or not. But I sure do know that my opinion will definitely be disregarded if I don't offer it.

 

[Five Seasons]

can't in all good conscience whine about issues here on a forum and then not even participate

 

 

You mean like Papist and VJP?

 

Members can think what they want about my stance on crossbows, but I wrote letters and sent my money to NYB. I did more than just post links from websites. Hope we all do the same with regards to the doe only nonsense.

Edited February 2, 2016 by Belo

[Doc]

You mean like Papist and VJP?

 

Honestly, I really don't have any idea of what kinds of activism those guys get involved with. For all I know they may each be high ranking officials in some militia group ..... lol.

 

No seriously, I have my own beliefs as to how much time and money I should devote to activism. And everybody has to establish those numbers for themselves. I do what I can, and others do what they can, I assume. But this sampling of hunter's opinions on a handful of issues really is not all that time consuming. It's a small enough thing to do on something that I feel very strong about. And I do hope that others will offer their opinions to the DEC. They can do what they want with the input, but at least they can't say I didn't tell them what I was thinking.

[Four Season Whitetail's]

Honestly, I really don't have any idea of what kinds of activism those guys get involved with. For all I know they may each be high ranking officials in some militia group ..... lol.

 

No seriously, I have my own beliefs as to how much time and money I should devote to activism. And everybody has to establish those numbers for themselves. I do what I can, and others do what they can, I assume. But this sampling of hunter's opinions on a handful of issues really is not all that time consuming. It's a small enough thing to do on something that I feel very strong about. And I do hope that others will offer their opinions to the DEC. They can do what they want with the input, but at least they can't say I didn't tell them what I was thinking.

Just sucks that their track record shows that this is only a feel good thing the DEC does for sportsmen. Their ideas were put in motion long ago and nothing but a small miracle would change their plan.

[Larry]

hey anyone see latest  outdoor news saying the DEC is not going to make any reg. changes for the 2016-17 big game seasons.

[chas0218]

So how many have actually submitted their opinions? Just curious

I submitted mine the day it was posted.

[Culvercreek hunt club]

Teaser alert---Stay tuned for an upcoming  GRST QDMA education event in Rochester area. I promises to shed light on the entire process, what DEC can and cant do under NY's system and will be presented by members of the DEC.