turkeyfeathers Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 So many times it has been said Shot placement is the key to a Hunter or Target shooter.More gun/bullet is only going to be accurate to the shooter.To say that a 22 is undergunned for any game is a farce. Simple fact that a .22 will wound more coyotes than ever retrieved. .22's have killed a lot of deer over the years too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Simple fact that a .22 will wound more coyotes than ever retrieved. .22's have killed a lot of deer over the years too. I myself have a killed many with a .22.This works for me.If I had to choose an all round fire arm The .22 wins.Shot placement is the key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 The other reason for using the .22 is the areas that I hunt.I have shot Coyote with a shotgun 12 and 20 guage makes a mess.I sell the pelts so less damage is better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkeyfeathers Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 I myself have a killed many with a .22.This works for me.If I had to choose an all round fire arm The .22 wins.Shot placement is the key. how many not retrieved ? I don't think there is one hardcore canine hunter that would ever suggest using a .22 And back on track- I've heard Mini 14's" pattern" well as opposed to AR's grouping tighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisw Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 You could look into the Ruger Ranch rifle, modest price, nice features without spending a ton. I'd sink most of the available money into a good scope. Light gathering capabilities are paramount when predator hunting. PS...don't use a 22lr... Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 how many not retrieved ? I don't think there is one hardcore canine hunter that would ever suggest using a .22 And back on track- I've heard Mini 14's" pattern" well as opposed to AR's grouping tighter. Several but that is hunting get some loose some.I did say for the areas that I hunt.If you have big tracts of land by all means use what you want to.When I grow up I wil purchase a 50 cal BMG lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlammerhirt Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Well said Phade....deff not looking to use a .22 lr on a coyote...but hey to each there own. If you ask 100 guys...I am guessing under 5 would pick a .22lr as there #1 caliber. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATbuckhunter Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 An AR is good, but if your looking for a bolt you cant go wrong with a T/C venture or a rem 700. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 I guess that I'm from the old school.Of course I could take my 270 Winchester and kill a coyote at long ranges.I just do not understand why you all need such a large cal./rifle to hunt a Dog.The 223 243 just is a waste of ammo to me.I do not have the land to shoot long ranges at most 130yrds max.The other reason that I pointed to was what you could earn with a smller hole in the hide.What do you all do with the coyote pelts/dogs leave them where they are killed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Heck if I were out to just kill My 357 handy rifle would do the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodchuck Posted January 31, 2016 Author Share Posted January 31, 2016 how many not retrieved ? I don't think there is one hardcore canine hunter that would ever suggest using a .22 And back on track- I've heard Mini 14's" pattern" well as opposed to AR's grouping tighter. By "pattern" your saying accuracy isn't great? I hear the older minis aren't great. But the new models are alot better. Sent from my SM-T810 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Accuracy is not only with the firearm/ammo it is with the shooter.Most accuracy tests are done from a bench not offhand bigger is not allways the key to a rifle/gun is what you are comfortable shooting.I'm not against bigger larger cal.s I just do not have the area to shoot them.Other than Big game the .22 is a great round canbe used in more ways then a larger cal rifle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airedale Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) Hunting in the woods with relatively short ranges or open country where shots could be taken out to several hundred yards, maybe a combination of both? Calling in the woods I have never taken a shot over sixty yards, I have successfully used a 22 LR, 22 Mag, 17 HMR also with a shotgun loaded with buck and once took one with a 410 slug. Open country is a different story, I like something that can get out there a bit, most of the 22 center fire varmint cartridges will work well, I trend toward the upper end stuff like a 22/250 and my favorite the 220 Swift. For an all around rifle in most Coyote hunting situations a 223 in a bolt action or an autoloader that looks and feels right and shot well would be tough to beat. The ammo availability in 223 is also a factor that makes it a favorite. Al Edited January 31, 2016 by airedale 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodchuck Posted January 31, 2016 Author Share Posted January 31, 2016 Accuracy is not only with the firearm/ammo it is with the shooter.Most accuracy tests are done from a bench not offhand bigger is not allways the key to a rifle/gun is what you are comfortable shooting.I'm not against bigger larger cal.s I just do not have the area to shoot them.Other than Big game the .22 is a great round canbe used in more ways then a larger cal rifleDom, I have a 17 cal but worry I may wound and lose and animal. Whatever you are comfortable shooting is good for you. I like one shot one kill, no screwing around. Sent from my SM-T810 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeGuy Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) I am looking for a coyote gun. I don't know if I will go bolt action or semi auto. Most guys I know hunt with ar's for accuracy and a quick second shot if needed. Looking for opinions on the perfect coyote / fox gun and what caliber. Sent from my SM-T810 using Tapatalk So between all the arguing, are you narrowing it down to anything?Let me back up my recommendation. I started predator hunting with a Remington 597 semi auto .22, lost two dogs after a long track job and decided to switch, started taking out my Remington mod 700 in 6mm ( basically a .243), had multiple dogs come in on a perfect set and there was no way I could get a second shot off at another dog...besides the fact it did terrible things to the pelt. So I saved my pennies and got the AR. Not only is it at tack driver at any range, but follow up shots are a breeze. Vmax 53 grain are also pretty easy on the pelts. Its my yote, fox, Chuck and " fun " gun. Ammo for paper is cheap, anybody can shoot it and have lots of fun at the range. A bolt action will save u some $$ but I think you may want to consider an AR. My .02 Edited January 31, 2016 by TreeGuy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeGuy Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 And another thing, there are a zillion add ons you can get to personalize an AR. Simple things like a new pistol grip or a trigger can easily help accuracy and comfort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 i use a 22 hornet or a mini 14 with a 5 round mag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntOrBeHunted Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Ok lets narrow this down ...let's saw I go .223....now I need a make a model that people like. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk I highly recommend a Saiga 223. A solid rifle made were the original AK's were born. Using there style platform and chrome lined barrel I find them to be great. Own 2, a 223. and a 7.62x39 I have shot thousands of rounds threw both with 0 problems. They sell them locally for something around 5 or 6 hundred bucks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodchuck Posted January 31, 2016 Author Share Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) I highly recommend a Saiga 223. A solid rifle made were the original AK's were born. Using there style platform and chrome lined barrel I find them to be great. Own 2, a 223. and a 7.62x39 I have shot thousands of rounds threw both with 0 problems. They sell them locally for something around 5 or 6 hundred bucks. I will check the saga out.Sent from my SM-T810 using Tapatalk Didn't know about these. Now I have to find a saiga at a gun shop. I think I have narrowed it down to an ar and saiga. Thanks to everybody for the opinions Edited January 31, 2016 by woodchuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckmaster7600 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I have built a few AR's that are NY compliant for under 600$ it is very easy to assemble parts on a AR. My favorite coyote gun I have I have is a polymer lower with a fluted lightweight barrel that I built that I use if I'm walking a lot and its under 6lbs and scary accurate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneam2006 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I have built a few AR's that are NY compliant for under 600$ it is very easy to assemble parts on a AR. My favorite coyote gun I have I have is a polymer lower with a fluted lightweight barrel that I built that I use if I'm walking a lot and its under 6lbs and scary accurate.Where did you get your polymer reciever if I can askSent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckmaster7600 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Where did you get your polymer reciever if I can ask Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk New frontier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeGuy Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I know they have come a long way, but I would do your research on a poly lower... They are cheaper but not much lighter, and if you are going to use your AR in the field, look into forged / aluminum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckmaster7600 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 I know they have come a long way, but I would do your research on a poly lower... They are cheaper but not much lighter, and if you are going to use your AR in the field, look into forged / aluminum. I did a lot of research and they have come along way, I saved about 5 oz to my other aluminum uppers. I have a bunch of plastic pistols and they hold up fine. It's not my only ar and will never be a high round count gun but for what I use it for its perfect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeGuy Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 I did a lot of research and they have come along way, I saved about 5 oz to my other aluminum uppers. I have a bunch of plastic pistols and they hold up fine. It's not my only ar and will never be a high round count gun but for what I use it for its perfect.I get it, but without saying its junk or its the best, I want to make sure people understand the differences before they purchase... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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