WNYBuckHunter Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 13 hours ago, diplomat019 said: how creepy do you look? lol. jk but yeah. if your coming out of the woods with a sword towards me or my kids ill defend myself. you can call the cops if you want. your profile pic is with you and what i assume is your son. i bet you wouldn't let someone approach him like that without some serious consequences. First off, it was a joke where I was calling myself creepy. You first reaction was right. Second, thats my daughter, and I would never let anyone attack her without consequences. Third, I carry, and I know that just because someone is dressed as a clown, no matter where they are I cant and wouldnt shoot them unless they were attacking me. I also know that if someone is walking out of the woods with a sword, or any other weapon, I cant and wouldnt shoot them. If someone is threatening or attacking me with a weapon, thats a whole different ballgame. Seriously, all these people saying that someone should get shot because they look like a creepy clown, are idiots. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chas0218 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 14 hours ago, diplomat019 said: how creepy do you look? lol. jk but yeah. if your coming out of the woods with a sword towards me or my kids ill defend myself. you can call the cops if you want. your profile pic is with you and what i assume is your son. i bet you wouldn't let someone approach him like that without some serious consequences. If they have some sort of weapon you better believe I'll pull my CCW. Especially if they begin to follow us, you can't go waving a sword around in public and expect to be fine I'm pretty sure a cop would put them down if in that same situation and they didn't comply. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diplomat019 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 1 hour ago, WNYBuckHunter said: First off, it was a joke where I was calling myself creepy. You first reaction was right. Second, thats my daughter, and I would never let anyone attack her without consequences. Third, I carry, and I know that just because someone is dressed as a clown, no matter where they are I cant and wouldnt shoot them unless they were attacking me. I also know that if someone is walking out of the woods with a sword, or any other weapon, I cant and wouldnt shoot them. If someone is threatening or attacking me with a weapon, thats a whole different ballgame. Seriously, all these people saying that someone should get shot because they look like a creepy clown, are idiots. I apologize. I couldnt see fine details on my phone. Just saw a child. No harm intended. Unless i think im ready to be attacked i would try and avoid the situation at all costs. I guess what i was trying to say is that when people are frightened you never know how they will react. If one of these clowns got hurt by someone I probably wouldnt be shocked. Especially when the last story that was released was about a kid being chased with a sword. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, diplomat019 said: I apologize. I couldnt see fine details on my phone. Just saw a child. No harm intended. Unless i think im ready to be attacked i would try and avoid the situation at all costs. I guess what i was trying to say is that when people are frightened you never know how they will react. If one of these clowns got hurt by someone I probably wouldnt be shocked. Especially when the last story that was released was about a kid being chased with a sword. I dont believe half of the storys that are being released at this point. Its turned into a little bit of hysteria. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Clowns are scary??Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny hunter Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Ha ha lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Those aren't scary clowns ,those are little girls with Red noses. Clowns always freak me out ,even those creepy mimes need to go away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 1 hour ago, chas0218 said: If they have some sort of weapon you better believe I'll pull my CCW. Especially if they begin to follow us, you can't go waving a sword around in public and expect to be fine I'm pretty sure a cop would put them down if in that same situation and they didn't comply. You can carry a sword around all you want, same as a knife, rifle, etc. You cannot "pull your CCW" just because someone has a weapon that they are not threatening anyone with, period. As I said, as soon as they start threatening or attacking, it becomes a different story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chas0218 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) 6 minutes ago, WNYBuckHunter said: You can carry a sword around all you want, same as a knife, rifle, etc. You cannot "pull your CCW" just because someone has a weapon that they are not threatening anyone with, period. As I said, as soon as they start threatening or attacking, it becomes a different story. Not if it causes public hysteria which a clown waving a sword around would, also in NY there is no open carry you can not walk the streets with any sort of firearm in plain sight. The only addendum to the law is if you are hunting and going to and from your vehicle to your hunting location. Edited September 30, 2016 by chas0218 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, chas0218 said: Not if it causes public hysteria which a clown waving a sword around would, also in NY there is no open carry you can not walk the streets with any sort of firearm in plain sight. The only addendum to the law is if you are hunting and to and from your vehicle to your hunting location. Wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chas0218 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, WNYBuckHunter said: Wrong In NY you must carry concealed no if, ands, buts about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, chas0218 said: In NY you must carry concealed no if, ands, buts about it. That only applies to pistols Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chas0218 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, WNYBuckHunter said: That only applies to pistols Read it how you want and do what you want how the law is written is too vague to warrant "only pistols". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, chas0218 said: Read it how you want and do what you want how the law is written is too vague to warrant "only pistols". Theres nothing vague about it. Concealed carry laws apply to pistols. There are no laws that state you cannot carry a long gun in plain view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Core Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 I'm confident none of us will ever see a clown in the woods with a sword. Agree with above much of this is hysteria. The public are easily rattled and can become afraid of their own shadows. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chas0218 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, WNYBuckHunter said: Theres nothing vague about it. Concealed carry laws apply to pistols. There are no laws that state you cannot carry a long gun in plain view. I know what the law reads I know what concealed carry for pistols is, what I am talking about is open carry of a long gun down a street. In NY there are laws that do not allow you to open carry a long gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chas0218 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) Here is one example. This is Buffalo N.Y. http://ecode360.com/13589188 Here I pulled the part that matters No person shall possess a loaded or unloaded firearm, rifle, shotgun or air gun, or a dagger, dangerous knife, dirk, razor or stiletto, in a public place or public facility in the City. This prohibition shall not apply to: Edited September 30, 2016 by chas0218 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 OK so this is now happening everywhere as I suspected it would...Do not know what they call it but it's one of those phone things that get people to gather at one place to do dumb things...same premise just with clowns...Syracuse, Albany, Buffalo ect...ect... have all had them and I'm sure a town near you the closer to Halloween we get. All fun and games until it's not...and some twit gets hurt because they want to be "socially in" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Water Rat Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Flash mob ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 31 minutes ago, chas0218 said: Here is one example. This is Buffalo N.Y. http://ecode360.com/13589188 Here I pulled the part that matters No person shall possess a loaded or unloaded firearm, rifle, shotgun or air gun, or a dagger, dangerous knife, dirk, razor or stiletto, in a public place or public facility in the City. This prohibition shall not apply to: Thats a local law, not state. BTW, if you keep reading, it says you can carry one openly if you have a locking device on it (trigger lock, etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 1 hour ago, chas0218 said: Here is one example. This is Buffalo N.Y. http://ecode360.com/13589188 Here I pulled the part that matters No person shall possess a loaded or unloaded firearm, rifle, shotgun or air gun, or a dagger, dangerous knife, dirk, razor or stiletto, in a public place or public facility in the City. This prohibition shall not apply to: That is a local law Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chas0218 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 40 minutes ago, Culvercreek hunt club said: That is a local law But still one that does not allow open carry in N.Y. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Core Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 I badly wish I had a clown mask. If I did, and I saw a trail cam this year on public land, I would absolutely slap that mask on before going in front of the camera. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Not if it causes public hysteria which a clown waving a sword around would, also in NY there is no open carry you can not walk the streets with any sort of firearm in plain sight. The only addendum to the law is if you are hunting and going to and from your vehicle to your hunting location.But you specifically said no open carry in NY. NY doesn't regulate the carry of long guns in open carry. The addendum you quoted may be a local but it is NOT a state restriction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 49 minutes ago, chas0218 said: But still one that does not allow open carry in N.Y. Buffalo doesnt cover the whole state. You seem to be having some difficulty in admitting that you are wrong about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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