Bone Yard and Gut Pile Thread 2016

[TreeGuy]

WHO ?

[wooly]

2 hours ago, TreeGuy said:

WHO ?

Awesome shot!

Do you think he was there to chew on the deer ribs, or just to scoop up a few mice that were snacking on them?

Mouse activity around my carcasses has been crazy as soon as the sun goes down especially in my swamp set ups. I've been hoping that would be a big draw to lure one of those guys in some night.

[Curmudgeon]

I think great-horned are getting mice most of the time. We get infrequent shots of them, unlike barred. Barred owls will spend a lot of time on a carcass.

[stubborn1VT]

Awesome is right!  I'm wishing I had a scrap pile going.  Unfortunately, I don't have a spot for it on our little 12 acre piece.  At least I get to live vicariously through you guys.  Thanks!

[TreeGuy]

Def eating carcass. He was there for a half hour. I got some videos too,pretty cool. Love when he does the exorcist and looks behind him.

[Curmudgeon]

I've been quite frustrated because my research site hasn't photographed any golden eagles this season. I still have 2 weeks to go. If I don't get one on camera, it will be the first year since 2010. Anyway, there are golden eagles here. I was going through video and found this one harassing a bald eagle. I don't know how to get a still out of a video so I took screen shots. The bugger was here but didn't feed. Another showed up Saturday, this time an adult, when a photographer was in the blind. He said it landed 50 feet from the bait behind some brush then flew off while being bombed by ravens. Ravens behave very differently towards the 2 species of eagle. They are very afraid of goldens, and hardly concerned about balds. I can't see the site from the house but ravens erupt regularly in large numbers, suggesting something dangerous - like a golden eagle is around. The goldens may just be hunting ravens. We've had them eaten before.

Edited February 13, 2017 by Curmudgeon
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[wooly]

This guy spent two hours straight on the carcass all alone for Valentines Day.

It's hard to pick favorites from so many pics!

[Steve D]

wooly's liken them new Browning trail cams

[wooly]

22 minutes ago, Steve D said:

wooly's liken them new Browning trail cams

You can say that again!

This one is a 2015 refurb I think.

I snagged it off ebay for cheap. Just what I was looking for in a critter cam.

[Steve D]

I have been keepin my eye out to but not in a big rush Definitely on my list to get. Gotta figure out which one first.

[LET EM GROW]

One of mine is a refurbished strike force from ebay as well. Flawless cam for 76$. Have 3 strike force cams and just ordered spec ops platinum this week

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[TreeGuy]

Not sure what's worse, aged gutpiles or these dogs skin...

[stoneam2006]

Not sure what's worse, aged gutpiles or these dogs skin...

Damn do them a favor and kill them and torch

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[Bowshotmuzzleloader]

3:00 o'clock yote and seems to be saying I'm here are you ??? I'm looking at your place,,, 

[Four Season Whitetail's]

Yup daylight dog is a dead dog anytime. You would be doing them a huge service...

[Doc]

Can  coyote survive in the wintertime with the loss of that much hair? I would think they would freeze to death.

[Curmudgeon]

Freeze or something. It doesn't look like it has much time left.

[wooly]

Gotta give them credit. They sure are resilient creatures no matter what they're up against!

Looks like he's just out taking advantage of a nice sunny day soaking up some rays.

[TreeGuy]

If this weather keeps up they may survive. And trust me, the effort is being put in to hunt them. I'm trying to hunt as much as possible to not educate.

[growalot]

He'd be better off freezing, it's quicker than the starvation. I have put down a few starving fox with mange over the years...It's a horrible sight. they are so distracted by the constant itching that they can't stay still enough to hunt. it takes a long time to slowly starve. They leave the mange mite in their dens and it can survive in said dens 3 weeks  or so.

http://northernwoodlands.org/outside_story/article/how_mange_a_terminal_disease_afflicts_red_fox/

Quote

There are varying degrees of alopecia in the na

ï

ve or

immunologically compromised host. The skin lesions are those

of an encrusting dermatitis without pruritis. The dermatitis

becomes extensive, often covering most of the body. The

thickened dry crusts on the skin surface fissure and

haemorrhage or are pyodermic. Mites are present in large

numbers. The debilitated host becomes emaciated and often

succumbs to the infection.

Three classes of progression of lesions of sarcoptic mange are

described in coyotes in Texas (Fig. 12) (45). This seems to be

the pattern of progression of the disease in wild canids

elsewhere, including other species such as red foxes, red

wolves (

Canis rufus

), grey wolves and probably jackals (

Canis

aureus

) (see Fig. 5.5 in 10) (9, 36, 37, 44, 58, 59). Animals with

class I infections had initial lesions of small dry scabby

encrustations with or without alopecia and without

suppuration or thickening of the skin. Lesions were always

found on the lower fore and hind limbs and a small spot on the

ischium (Fig. 12) These are often most pronounced on the

elbows, hocks and at the base of the tail (35). Rarely, small

lesions appear on the ears. Class II mange was described as an

active progressive infection with larger lesions on the elbows,

hocks and knees, and ischial region (Fig. 12). There was

usually alopecia, some suppurative encrustations, and greatly

hyperkeratotic darkly pigmented and wrinkled skin. In these

animals there were also class I lesions over much of the fore

and hind limbs and ischial region becoming confluent on the

ventral surface, flanks and shoulders. The back of the head,

ears and muzzle were usually affected. However, less than a

half of the body was involved. Coyotes with advanced cases of

active mange were considered as class III if more than a half of

the body was covered (Fig. 12). Frequently, in coyotes and

Fig. 12

Classes of mange in coyotes

Class I

(top) is the initial invection with lesions on the fore and hind

limbs, ischium and base of the ears

Class II

(middle) has more advanced lesions covering up to a half of

the body surface

Class III

(bottom) involves greater than a half of the total body surface

and may leave the animal essentially hairless except for the back

Photo: courtesy of D.B. Pence (redrawn from Pence

et al

. [45])

 

Edited February 20, 2017 by growalot

[Doc]

So is mange something that the critters can get over, or is it always something that sooner or later will kill them?

[Curmudgeon]

I don't know the answer. I do know that some feeder pigs I was raising had mange.They quarantined my place until they were slaughtered.

[growalot]

Read that first link I posted Doc...fatal...each species has a mite specific problem so if your dog or pigs,livestock get it they can be treated...I had a neighbor with a hound that had it not once but 2x's and it was a long expensive fix...the dog looked terrible, even though it had a funnel around it's neck to keep the constant urge to gnaw it's self at bay. In the wild there are no vet treatments. Mange in humans is scabies...

[Curmudgeon]

I finally managed to get this video uploaded to youtube. It shows a first winter golden eagle coming aggressively into my research site. It harasses the bald eagle on the bait while ignoring the 2 perched on the right. Notice how freaked out the ravens are after the golden eagle goes out of sight. That is pretty normal in these situations.

 

[wooly]

18 minutes ago, Curmudgeon said:

I finally managed to get this video uploaded to youtube. It shows a first winter golden eagle coming aggressively into my research site. It harasses the bald eagle on the bait while ignoring the 2 perched on the right. Notice how freaked out the ravens are after the golden eagle goes out of sight. That is pretty normal in these situations.

 

Nice- the video tells so much more about what's going on over the pics alone.

I just took the youtube plunge myself looking to run a little more video soon and have a place to keep my trail cam footage organized.

I have the Browning set up in this location now and need to flip it over from pics to vids today.

 

I have another clip that revealed there is a pair of redtails hitting this carcass here and not just one as I suspected. Hopefully I'll have some better clips from the better cam soon.