BizCT Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 Very good point there.......there's a bit of a learning curve with ML'ing and at some point, Papa Biz will be getting a BTDT t-shirt for xmas after some kind of oops moment with the new rig. Bizzy.........Does dad have any experience with a ML"er?This will be his first ML. But he's retired and has been doing research for years. He also reloaded for many years. I have never shot factory ammo out of rifle and never will that's how much him and his Dad made over the years. So he has a lot of gun knowledge in general with respect to all the cleaning and other stuff involved. He takes crazy care of all of his guns.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbuff Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 It's easy to tailor loads using loose powder and typically better groups are achieved, but pellets can be effective. Have him be safe and read owners manual upon arrival. Muzzloaders are a blast to shoot but like every firearm caution is needed . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 It's easy to tailor loads using loose powder and typically better groups are achieved, but pellets can be effective. Have him be safe and read owners manual upon arrival. Muzzloaders are a blast to shoot but like every firearm caution is needed .Yup, thx.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sailinghudson25 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Don't feel obligated to buy an expensive inline. I've seen plenty of bottom end CVA and traditions do 100 yard cloverleafs. I'd buy another t/c omega in stainless steel again, even used. However, I enjoy flintlocks and just use them. My t/c is a loaner gun, or I use it in shotgun only areas. If you live near PA, you can hunt deer in January for $126 a season with an iron sighted flintlock I've seen numerous public spots in PA beat ny private land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 Don't feel obligated to buy an expensive inline. I've seen plenty of bottom end CVA and traditions do 100 yard cloverleafs. I'd buy another t/c omega in stainless steel again, even used. However, I enjoy flintlocks and just use them. My t/c is a loaner gun, or I use it in shotgun only areas. If you live near PA, you can hunt deer in January for $126 a season with an iron sighted flintlock I've seen numerous public spots in PA beat ny private land.He made the Purchase yesterday.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 So what did he get? I forgot to mention Flintlocks...I bought Mr B beautiful Cabela's some years ago...They were made I think in Italy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 So what did he get? I forgot to mention Flintlocks...I bought Mr B beautiful Cabela's some years ago...They were made I think in ItalyI posted the screenshot of the packageSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Oh..I see now...nice looking gun hope they fit well together and he has a great season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckmaster7600 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 He mentioned pellets?Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI highly recommend blackhorn! So much cleaner and more precise.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 I highly recommend blackhorn! So much cleaner and more precise.Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI have no idea. I believe he's going with pellets since it's easier.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckmaster7600 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Sure isn't easier to clean!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny hunter Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Pellets do make life a bit easier....He well have to clean when ever he shoots....Weather it's a few shots or 1or 2 they have to be cleaned after every use do not put that off buddy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 44 minutes ago, Buckmaster7600 said: Sure isn't easier to clean! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 27 minutes ago, ny hunter said: Pellets do make life a bit easier....He well have to clean when ever he shoots....Weather it's a few shots or 1or 2 they have to be cleaned after every use do not put that off buddy... He cleans his shotguns and rifles after everytime he shoots, unless its hunting season. So this will be nothing new for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbuff Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 If he's shooting pellets he will need to clean every couple shots just to load it, you'll find out what a crud ring is real quick if not using bh209 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 On 3/22/2017 at 9:55 PM, Biz-R-OWorld said: Btw, he is going with "nitride" barrel, whatever that means. Thx again everyone. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk helps but really doesn't matter. before he shoots the gun he should have muzzleloader cleaning supplies and pre-cut cotton patches. some blk powder substitutes will eat through a barrel like crazy. I have a T/C Prohunter and have had CVA's. Fit and finish doesn't make up for the difference in cost. He's definitely making the right decision by going with a dependable scope. ML sometimes aren't easy on scopes. if there's a blatantly noticeable delay from trigger squeeze to the gun going bang then switch primer/powder combination. modern inlines shouldn't do that. make sure to not ignore cleaning the breech plug for good accuracy plus get in the barrel just after it were the powder ignited and created a ring of build up if there at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 I preload those speed loaders with a bullet and blackhorn ,powder or pellets ,its a very fast way to load. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 If he's shooting pellets he will need to clean every couple shots just to load it, you'll find out what a crud ring is real quick if not using bh209His problem, not mine. Once he sights it in, he will only hunt with it during the late ML season (if he had a buck tag left). He doesn't target shoot for funSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 Again guys, this thread is done. Thx for the help. I'm not involved and honestly don't care. It's his gun, he can shoot it how he wants. I'm sure he'll be fine.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeGuy Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Wait !!! There's so much more to argue about ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlammerhirt Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Lol...I love the way biz ended all future discussion in this thread. It was a awesome exit! Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted March 29, 2017 Author Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) ... Edited March 29, 2017 by Biz-R-OWorld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted March 29, 2017 Author Share Posted March 29, 2017 28 minutes ago, TreeGuy said: Wait !!! There's so much more to argue about ! 17 minutes ago, mlammerhirt said: Lol...I love the way biz ended all future discussion in this thread. It was a awesome exit! Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk Haha. sometimes you just gotta steamroll everyone. I can confirm he bought the extra breech plug for Blackhorn 209. He also bought IMR White Hote Pellets & Powerbelt 250 grain bullets. That's it. Thread closed. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moog5050 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Final word - I win! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbuff Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 white hots and power belts, ugh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkeyfeathers Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 13 minutes ago, sbuff said: white hots and power belts, ugh Should buy his dad some Shockwaves as a good son at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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